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  1. #1
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    OhirumenoMuchi's Avatar
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    Amaterasu Omiokami
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80

    Sugestion: Add a option to not join WALL TO WALL pull groups.

    some people just don't like to pull things like that. some others do, my last experience within the roulette made me wish i could not play with players anymore.

    maybe if we had a check button so people who don't want to play the game the normal way the community has been enforcing around would be great. i'd like the mods of the forum to read this. people have been rude about this been a while, the game was once a more enjoyable, it is, until you have to get together with other players to get through dungeons.

    it would work like this: want to do roulette and earn the currency to get gear but don't want to wall to wall anymore? ok, just check this option and well try to match you with other people.

    people don't even ask and if you don't go through their way they trash you, they become rude to you, its either play their way or don't play at all.

    i feel like not playing final fantasy XIV anymore sometimes.
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    Luin Vereist
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Players wanting a particular dungeon experience can use the Party Finder to organize like-minded players.

    This Duty Finder option would (A) be ineffective unless half-sized pulling was mandatory by in-game systems that currently do not exist, (B) be unpopular due to increased queue times, (C) increase queue times for all players since some players will inevitably use this option, and (D) present an inconsistent message for what the developers believe to be intended playstyles.

    Currently, healing and mitigation requirements are so low when pulling single-packs that healers/tanks aren't required to clear, AoE skills don't have a limit on the targets that can be hit, and mitigation is percentage-based.

    I believe the developers intended for players to use their full toolkits, and for tanks/healers to feel useful in a party role.
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    Last edited by Luin; 06-30-2021 at 02:32 PM. Reason: typo

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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    people doing roulette 90% of the time want to be done asap
    people will wall to wall becuase all dungeons besides bardam and holmie switch are a joke ,
    so just use Party finder if you are so against wall to wall pulls.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    An option that further fragments the duty finder pool is a bad idea, regardless of what the option is. When you play with randoms, you deal with what you get. If you want fast and roulette gives you slow, you deal with it. If you want slow and roulette gives you fast, you deal with it. If you arent able to deal with this, you dont engage duty finder. Use squadrons where you can, use trusts where you can, use friends and party finder for the rest.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    If you want to be convenienced by a pool of any and all typical XIV players, expect to run as the typical XIV player wants to. For all else, there is Party Finder.

    By all means, promote different dungeon designs that aren't all the same stale procedure of run-to-gate, AoE spam, run-to-gate, AoE spam, but as long as they continue to be made as is, don't expect the devs to spend time adding new features that would increase queue times.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-30-2021 at 03:46 PM.

  6. #6
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OhirumenoMuchi View Post
    people don't even ask and if you don't go through their way they trash you, they become rude to you, its either play their way or don't play at all.

    i feel like not playing final fantasy XIV anymore sometimes.
    Then they are the problem, not the lack of a duty finder option.
    Report them and have fun.
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Unless you're the tank who can't handle it or the healer who can't keep up, there is zero reason to be against wall to wall in 99% of the dungeons.
    The trash are really weak and the dungeons are hallway simulators. You gain nothing from not just pulling everything and using your 1 or 2 aoe buttons til they're dead.
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  8. #8
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    Sadly dungeons design philosophy is so narrow that, that’s the only logical course of action. It would help if the dungeons weren’t heavily gated or linear then it would be impossible to WTW and the tank would actually have to guide Aurum Vale style.

    If healing is too tight ask the tank to lay it down a notch or just wait and see if it works. Theirs no consequences on dying so no worries or concerns
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    Anya Synia
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    Moogle
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    Dancer Lv 90
    As a dps single pulls are boring since I then have no reason to use my AOEs. Wall to wall means I can burn everything down in an instant. It's only tanks and heaters that should control wall to wall, the only reason not to do it is because either the tank or healer is not ready for it which will cause a wipe.
    Wall to wall is not a new thing either its been a thing since I played in 2.0 because it is the optimal way to play.
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    Princess Walk
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anya_Synia View Post
    As a dps single pulls are boring since I then have no reason to use my AOEs. Wall to wall means I can burn everything down in an instant. It's only tanks and heaters that should control wall to wall, the only reason not to do it is because either the tank or healer is not ready for it which will cause a wipe.
    Wall to wall is not a new thing either its been a thing since I played in 2.0 because it is the optimal way to play.
    Not every dungeon in ARR was wall to wall friendly, SPECIALLY when ARR was current.
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