Make Fate Parties Relevant again, devs!

[BigTough]

Didn't they actually nerf the FATE exp rewards back in ARR due to RMT bots?

I didn't know about that, but that makes sense. I remember reporting a few fate botters back then, especially in NT that were tanks and they would constantly reset fates because they programed their software to make them run away at low health,

[BigTough]

I do think the boss fates should be insane fight. Ixion should be 10 times harder than it is.

I agree, same with hunts.

[TaleraRistain]

They did try with the ShB system. But what you have to remember is that FATE groups were so big at that time because paths to exp were limited. And we used to have that drought at around 47 where we couldn't get the next MSQ quest and had to grind to get high enough. So there was a lot of FATE farming.

[Jirah]

heres a idea, Remove this road to 80 bullcrap and just streamline the methods to leveling, content such as:
*Fates
*Beast tribe
*Roulettes*
*Leves
*Hunt logs
*Deep Dungoens
*Guild heists
*Wondrous tails
*Challenge log
Ect

[TeraRamis]

I think the biggest issue is that FFXIV's leveling mantra has essentially become 'POTD or die.' Nothing is competitive with it, and no matter how odious like 15 hours of that place may be, people are always going to default to the straightest line between point A and B.

[Burmecia]

Becoming misanthropist hermit has made me find the beauty of FATEs (and Levequests) as leveling tools between 1-50.
Maybe not the most effective way, but you do not have to mess with anyone but yourself and that is great!
So, maybe try becoming hermit? You can party with your Chocobo and Minion and maybe Carbuncle

[TTiscancer]

I think the biggest issue is that FFXIV's leveling mantra has essentially become 'POTD or die.' Nothing is competitive with it, and no matter how odious like 15 hours of that place may be, people are always going to default to the straightest line between point A and B.

I have leveled every job to 71 or 80. Never done POTD.

[Mimilu]

I do miss how fast ARR's FATE trains were.
One of the reasons I couldn't get into Eureka or Bozja was that they feel so slow to me, between having such big maps, either having to unlock mounts or having to unlock mount speed boosts, areas locked behind story progression, and having a new level to grind.

Didn't they actually nerf the FATE exp rewards back in ARR due to RMT bots?

That and the fact people weren't queueing for leveling dungeons, making queue times for newbies longer.

[ReynTime]

Becoming misanthropist hermit has made me find the beauty of FATEs (and Levequests) as leveling tools between 1-50.
Maybe not the most effective way, but you do not have to mess with anyone but yourself and that is great!
So, maybe try becoming hermit? You can party with your Chocobo and Minion and maybe Carbuncle

Battlecraft Leves aren't a bad way to level, provided you have allowances, until around Lv40. Specially Grand Company leves... which, for some incredibly stupid reason cannot be levelinked.
Because allowances are so limited I made sure to use all mine up before resorting to dungeons. I'm aware most people prefer to just go with the fastest methods, but I got so sick of spamming dungeons or potd that I used FATEs and Leves in-between a lot.

[BigTough]

Becoming misanthropist hermit has made me find the beauty of FATEs (and Levequests) as leveling tools between 1-50.
Maybe not the most effective way, but you do not have to mess with anyone but yourself and that is great!
So, maybe try becoming hermit? You can party with your Chocobo and Minion and maybe Carbuncle

I love that you found a way to enjoy levelling up in a way that is satisfying and fulfilling for you, that's awesome. I just want to meet some new people that I can say hi to and talk with about things with. That bond from levelling with each other for hours and graduating from one zone to the next. It was great, I loved doing the leves to though tbh, those massive xp boosts when you turn in leves is super satisfying. lol