Make Fate Parties Relevant again, devs!

[BigTough]

I do think the boss fates should be insane fight. Ixion should be 10 times harder than it is.

I agree, same with hunts.

[TeraRamis]

I've previously asked for this same thing (and not just the Bozjan/Eureka equivalents, where we're sequestered in a single zone).

Two things about FATE mobs that were great: 1) they made any zone they were active in feel alive - way, WAY more alive than any experience I've ever had with areas in, say, World of Warcraft. When you were running all over the place in the South Shroud, or Southern Thalanaan, or whatever, it really felt immersive.

And 2) it was an amazing way to meet people and just talk. I loved that about FATE grinding. It was lovely to just interact with people who you wouldn't normally bump into, and have conversations about whatever. I barely talk to anyone anymore, outside RP.

[Jeeqbit]

I liked fate parties over POTD but POTD just killed them. I think a lot of sprouts do them in ARR but then learn they are not common as they get into expansions. They have been made relevant again because of relic weapon steps and people do them in Shadowbringers for the bicolor gemstones, but they don't usually form parties because a lot of them don't know what Party Finder is.

[TaleraRistain]

They did try with the ShB system. But what you have to remember is that FATE groups were so big at that time because paths to exp were limited. And we used to have that drought at around 47 where we couldn't get the next MSQ quest and had to grind to get high enough. So there was a lot of FATE farming.

[Jirah]

heres a idea, Remove this road to 80 bullcrap and just streamline the methods to leveling, content such as:
*Fates
*Beast tribe
*Roulettes*
*Leves
*Hunt logs
*Deep Dungoens
*Guild heists
*Wondrous tails
*Challenge log
Ect

[TeraRamis]

I think the biggest issue is that FFXIV's leveling mantra has essentially become 'POTD or die.' Nothing is competitive with it, and no matter how odious like 15 hours of that place may be, people are always going to default to the straightest line between point A and B.

[TTiscancer]

I think the biggest issue is that FFXIV's leveling mantra has essentially become 'POTD or die.' Nothing is competitive with it, and no matter how odious like 15 hours of that place may be, people are always going to default to the straightest line between point A and B.

I have leveled every job to 71 or 80. Never done POTD.

[TaleraRistain]

I think the biggest issue is that FFXIV's leveling mantra has essentially become 'POTD or die.' Nothing is competitive with it, and no matter how odious like 15 hours of that place may be, people are always going to default to the straightest line between point A and B.

Before POTD it was "FATE or die" because that was the default straightest line between point A and point B. POTD was like a breath of fresh air when it came out because we didn't have to grind FATEs until our eyes bled. It's kind of ironic to me that people want that back now.

I definitely think they should keep FATEs relevant. I just don't think we're ever going to see FATE farms like OP mentions again because a lot of that was due to having no other choice. I thought the Shared FATE system was a good idea and also the exp boost they started putting in with SB FATEs. I think there will just naturally be a ceiling to their usefulness unless SE makes them the only option again. Which I don't see them doing, given the popularity of newer options.

[Burmecia]

Becoming misanthropist hermit has made me find the beauty of FATEs (and Levequests) as leveling tools between 1-50.
Maybe not the most effective way, but you do not have to mess with anyone but yourself and that is great!
So, maybe try becoming hermit? You can party with your Chocobo and Minion and maybe Carbuncle

[ReynTime]

Becoming misanthropist hermit has made me find the beauty of FATEs (and Levequests) as leveling tools between 1-50.
Maybe not the most effective way, but you do not have to mess with anyone but yourself and that is great!
So, maybe try becoming hermit? You can party with your Chocobo and Minion and maybe Carbuncle

Battlecraft Leves aren't a bad way to level, provided you have allowances, until around Lv40. Specially Grand Company leves... which, for some incredibly stupid reason cannot be levelinked.
Because allowances are so limited I made sure to use all mine up before resorting to dungeons. I'm aware most people prefer to just go with the fastest methods, but I got so sick of spamming dungeons or potd that I used FATEs and Leves in-between a lot.