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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    This is why this game should'nt get a parse

    O2S run going very well, despite a mistake from a tank that did get all dps killed we completed this way before the enrage.

    Warrior of the group who was all the time talking about his precious dps and fflogs getting the faulty tank kicked, as well as 3 dps because "shit the rest of you".



    Elitist jerks and toxicity aren't gonna be a problem if SE add a parse to the game... yeah right
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    I don't wanna play the devil's advocate but... It's the run that juuuuust got uploaded? The tanks did more DPS than all the actual DPS but the NIN. o-O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    The tanks did more DPS than all the actual DPS but the NIN. o-O
    Friend of mine runs a parser as a tank and sees DPS in DF do this all the time. This does not surprise me if this is happening here. When I'm playing my redmage, its not uncommon for me to do 500-1200 more dps than a DPS who's even got 5-15 ilvls above me.

    Without parsing, there's literally no way to tell if the short end of the stick is the DPS. Or which one.

    If SE ever did decide to implement a parser. I think it should measure potency per second rather than raw damage. Then have a separate one for damage when someone is solo fighting a target dummy. That'll curb most elistism down based on gear. While still showing who's putting in the most effort.

    Because sorry to say.. you DO need your damage to be MUCH higher than the tanks' in the higher content. That's just a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I don't wanna play the devil's advocate but... It's the run that juuuuust got uploaded? The tanks did more DPS than all the actual DPS but the NIN. o-O
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    How in the hell is this even a thread?

    'Parsers are bad because I'm embarrassed I was outdpsed by tanks who were mean to me'

    Really? Is this what people are complaining about now? Send those tanks my way, I'd love to get a WAR in Shin who didn't plop down in Defiance and stay there.
    Did you see his logs at 25th december without death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Did you see his logs at 25th december without death?
    I saw a 5-ogcd and 6-ogcd weave. I died a little inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Did you see his logs at 25th december without death?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    I saw a 5-ogcd and 6-ogcd weave. I died a little inside.
    o.o

    /10char
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I don't wanna play the devil's advocate but... It's the run that juuuuust got uploaded? The tanks did more DPS than all the actual DPS but the NIN. o-O
    The truth has a way of rearing its head... I too found the log.

    Unfortunately -- this is probably about as much as can be said before risking warnings/suspensions/actions on accounts.
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    If i didn't get killed because of the tank's fault, i would have get more dps than him. The only run i get as low is because other people were getting killed left and right too.

    Don't change the fact that the group wasn't even advertised as "already finished", so he looked like a training one. And doesn't excuse to say something rude like "shit the rest of you", instead of "i am sorry but i did forgot to advertise this was a high dps group for my precious fflogs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    If i didn't get killed because of the tank's fault, i would have get more dps than him. The only run i get as low is because other people were getting killed left and right too.

    Don't change the fact that the group wasn't even advertised as "already finished", so he looked like a training one. And doesn't excuse to say something rude like "shit the rest of you", instead of "i am sorry but i did forgot to advertise this was a high dps group for my precious fflogs".

    I'm not trying to nitpick here, but I don't think that you understand (at least from what was said in the screenshot) that he wasn't exactly calling other people "shit" he basically stated, albeit in a vulgar way "Tough luck the rest of you." While I in no way condone how he was acting towards the raid, twisting people's words to fit your personal narrative to paint them in a negative light is just as bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    I'm not trying to nitpick here, but I don't think that you understand (at least from what was said in the screenshot) that he wasn't exactly calling other people "shit" he basically stated, albeit in a vulgar way "Tough luck the rest of you." While I in no way condone how he was acting towards the raid, twisting people's words to fit your personal narrative to paint them in a negative light is just as bad.
    You said it before me. Some people love to twist words. You see it too often.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Because parsers becoming mandatory is gonna bring even more idiotic attitudes into the game ?
    You basically just said people shouldn't be allowed to play the game because it can make them toxic. You just did, believe it or not. You said just now that parser makes people toxic and elitist, so what does that make players being a-holes in the game? Parser or not that guys attitude wouldn't change. It was pretty obvious probably you all did bad because how slow the boss died, you don't need a parser for that. So what is this thread about again?
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 12-30-2017 at 12:54 PM.

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