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    I don't particularly dislike Cid but I don't find him all that interesting either. He's just sort of "there" to me. I don't really like Lyse much but since we've barely seen her recently I don't find her too troublesome.

    Zenos is just boring and has massively overstayed his welcome. I just can't really muster up actual hatred for him but he's definitely almost at the bottom of the list for me. He should have stayed dead.

    At the absolute bottom, though, is Graha Tia. He was annoying in the CT era but as a side character I could mostly ignore him. As Exarch, he redeemed himself somewhat and I actually thought he had a fairly solid arc with a great ending; a sacrifice of one innocent life to save the hero he so admired. Post Exarch.. just ugh. He should have stayed dead. Now he's not only worse than he was in the CT days but he's also likely to be a permanent part of your adventuring party so there's little hope we'll ever be able to get away from him. Him and Zenos might be nearly on the same level for me distaste wise, but that fact alone would put Graha over the top.
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    The WoL... They make us too nice most of the time. I'd enjoy my own character more in the story if I could have regular outbursts at ppl in cutscenes like during the initial DRK job quests.
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    Alisaie. She was so useless that in ShB they had to give her some random BS reason even exist. At least Alphie knows he's useless, she on other hand is just delusional.
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    Me.
    The WoL.
    I often feel like I am a spectator in others tales, and I am simply around so by the strength of my arm I can bring them success and they can move on to the next chapter in their story.
    I have no agency.
    I have little opportunity to show my personality.
    I am here to facilitate the story.
    And if
    I am one of the ascians. That's cool because it means I'm not even me. I'm basically piloting an NPC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Me.
    The WoL.
    I often feel like I am a spectator in others tales, and I am simply around so by the strength of my arm I can bring them success and they can move on to the next chapter in their story.
    I have no agency.
    I have little opportunity to show my personality.
    I am here to facilitate the story.
    And if
    I am one of the ascians. That's cool because it means I'm not even me. I'm basically piloting an NPC.
    You also forgot that they force us to be far to courteous to our enemies... Take Praetorium for example. We stand by and let ppl deliver long winded speeches before fighting them instead of just walking up and punching them in the face while they talk then just let them casually walk off during a fight to go get into a giant robot? >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Me.
    The WoL.
    I often feel like I am a spectator in others tales, and I am simply around so by the strength of my arm I can bring them success and they can move on to the next chapter in their story.
    I have no agency.
    I have little opportunity to show my personality.
    I am here to facilitate the story.
    And if
    I am one of the ascians. That's cool because it means I'm not even me. I'm basically piloting an NPC.
    That has always been the FF way of storytelling, you're not playing from the characters POV. Think of it as an interactive book from a 3rd person perspective.

    Outside of combat, you're not playing the WoL, from a story-telling perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTiscancer View Post
    That has always been the FF way of storytelling, you're not playing from the characters POV. Think of it as an interactive book from a 3rd person perspective.

    Outside of combat, you're not playing the WoL, from a story-telling perspective.
    That's true.
    In FF7 you are piloting the character of Cloud (& co.)
    In FF15 you are piloting the character of Noctis (&co.)
    It just hits different here because the game pretends I'm making my own character when really, outside of glamming, I never really get to BE my character.

    I'm also no stranger to games where your character is a blank slate you can project onto.
    However, those games generally aren't as story focused as FF14, and I'm disappointed that in FF14 they didn't cook up a more compelling way to involve US in the narrative.

    If I were to think of FF14 were like an interactive book... that's an interesting angle. That's cool, and I like visual novels just fine. But that doesn't fix my issues with our hardly existant protag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    That's true.
    In FF7 you are piloting the character of Cloud (& co.)
    In FF15 you are piloting the character of Noctis (&co.)
    It just hits different here because the game pretends I'm making my own character when really, outside of glamming, I never really get to BE my character.

    I'm also no stranger to games where your character is a blank slate you can project onto.
    However, those games generally aren't as story focused as FF14, and I'm disappointed that in FF14 they didn't cook up a more compelling way to involve US in the narrative.

    If I were to think of FF14 were like an interactive book... that's an interesting angle. That's cool, and I like visual novels just fine. But that doesn't fix my issues with our hardly existant protag.
    But see, you're not the protag, you're just the guy/gal they hired to kill shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTiscancer View Post
    But see, you're not the protag, you're just the guy/gal they hired to kill shit
    Yeah... that's probably why the WoL is my least favorite major character.
    I think you've hit the nail on the head.
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    I agree, I find the MC one of the less satisfying characters in the game, with fairly bland or ill fitting options for responses I wouldn't use for my own type of characters I'd normally play in an rpg. Certainly after the revelations about their ancient past from SHB, I'd want them to ask many more questions and seek to learn of it. Maybe tempering factors in as I said earlier but it's not conclusive. I also find some of the lines available to them too cheesy.
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