Pulling During Cutscene

[Kolaina]

Now who’s gaslighting? Goji never said they would lie about a phone call. They said it’s no different than if you got a phone call. By the way disparaging another poster because they disagree with you is rude. Don’t forget that.

There is nothing in the TOS about failure to participate. If there is then please point it out. Further waiting for the whole team to be ready before participating is not griefing. Abuse of the report function however is. So feel free to risk your accounts reporting those people.

Should I show u my own ban message for failing to participate because of waiting for someone? Yes they did claim to make an excuse for not participating. Thought you were done with this thread trobon? Didn’t last long

[Trobon]

Should I show u my own ban message for failing to participate because of waiting for someone? Yes they did claim to make an excuse for not participating. Thought you were done with this thread trobon? Didn’t last long

Yeah go ahead. Show me that ban message. I’d really love to see it. Especially where it says because you waited for someone. Also I thought you were against being rude on this thread, guess we both said things we didn’t end up following.

[Kolaina]

Yeah go ahead. Show me that ban message. I’d really love to see it. Especially where it says because you waited for someone. Also I thought you were against being rude on this thread, guess we both said things we didn’t end up following.

Its not rude because it is something that you disagree with. Tell me how to show you. How to put screen shot from ps5 to here?

[SturmChurro]

I didn't read any of the actual conversation that was going on in this thread, but if someone were to state in chat they weren't participating to "wait" for someone, it may have been viewed by the GM as:

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.

That goes over what I stated in my last post about using the chat function.

[Trobon]

I didn't read any of the actual conversation that was going on in this thread, but if someone were to state in chat they weren't participating to "wait" for someone, it may have been viewed by the GM as:



That goes over what I stated in my last post about using the chat function.

I mean I guess if waiting for someone to join the fight is reportable under that then pulling while someone is in a cutscene would be too since that is disrupting their experience. If people want to go down that rabbit hole then I guess we’re going to be in a report everyone system where if anyone ever admits to pulling early or not joining in chat they will get reported.

Seems like the only solution is unskippable cutscenes in all content. Then no one has to be reported.

[Goji1639]

I didn't read any of the actual conversation that was going on in this thread, but if someone were to state in chat they weren't participating to "wait" for someone, it may have been viewed by the GM as:



That goes over what I stated in my last post about using the chat function.

Thing is that there's implied intent to be disruptive behind a rule like this that isn't stated in the rule. Someone going AFK to answer a phone; check on their child; etc., is technically disrupting every other person in the group. There's no intent to be disruptive there, though, like there's no intent to be disruptive when you're simply waiting for someone.

[SturmChurro]

Thing is that there's implied intent to be disruptive behind a rule like this that isn't stated in the rule. Someone going AFK to answer a phone; check on their child; etc., is technically disrupting every other person in the group. There's no intent to be disruptive there, though, like there's no intent to be disruptive when you're simply waiting for someone.

Yep, which is why admitting to intentionally 'disrupting' the gameplay experience for other players probably will and has gotten players banned, while I doubt players are getting banned for saying "sorry have to afk". However, "waiting"' for a player can be viewed as intent to be disruptive, because a player who is willfully not participating in content - and stating such - is disrupting the gameplay experience for the player(s) who pulled.

[Kolaina]

I didn't read any of the actual conversation that was going on in this thread, but if someone were to state in chat they weren't participating to "wait" for someone, it may have been viewed by the GM as:



That goes over what I stated in my last post about using the chat function.

3.2 is precisely what my ban notice says