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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post

    Pulling during cutscene doesn’t matter. At all. It does not kick the watcher out of cutscene, and it’s not like they miss any important mechanics, either. Because one [1] they’re either going to run the content at hand again, so they will be able to see the mechanic they missed, or two [2] they’re never going to run that content again. So again, why does it matter?
    It does a couple things:
    One it pressures people to skip. They get a big notification in the middle of their screen that they're about to be locked out and most people will go "Oh.. they started the fight already. If I am just standing here I am not doing my part. I should skip to help." With a little more pressure if you're the healer and a lot of pressure if you're the tank ( I have had people pull for the tank while people are watching cutscenes) .

    Two it kinda ruins the impact of the cutscene. That aforesaid notification is right in the middle of the screen and kinda jerks you out of the experience. Most cutscenes ARE just boss thuds down, does something flashy and then fwoosh encounter, but some have some relevant experience they're going for.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post

    And then you have the “good guys”, let’s call them. The people who will get absolutely vitriolic with you because how dare you be impatient and not wait for the cutscene watcher. It doesn’t matter if you’ve run this content a million times. It doesn’t matter how old it may be. The fact of the matter is you pulled during a cutscene and therefore you are the worst human being alive and deserve to be shunned by the rest of the ~community~.

    I’m not even being hyberbolic, here. I have seen people call out pullers by name and try and get everyone else to attack them as well. But it’s okay, because these people are the heroes and the puller is the villain! Pay no mind to the harassment and threats they are dishing out because they’re doing it to “defend” a new person. I have seen people call pullers “toxic trash”, spewing expletives about how awful a person they are, trying to rally the other members of the alliance to blacklist and report. Like, hello? How is that okay? You may not agree with pulling during cutscene, but to verbally attack someone who does is not and never will be okay.
    On the flip side this is NOT ok. Yelling at people or going straight to insults just because they did something "rude" or bad mannered is not the right reaction. But a lot of them have been yelled at for the same thing before.. so they're just reacting as they remember others have. This doesn't excuse it but this is probably the worst side of player interaction in this game, if someone breaks known community standards, they are "marked" now and fair game. This is not cool. Agreed.

    I will mention that the fact you've run the content a million times, or how old the content is to YOU.. doesn't matter though. Using this as an excuse is denying the fact that there are always going to be new players and one of the reasons everyone gets so mad about you skipping cutscenes is because you are judging the value of THEIR experience on YOUR values. For that sprout or WHATEVER who is sitting there with the filmstrip next to their name, they possibly are seeing something new and wonderful even if you've seen it a thousand times.





    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    I have mentioned before that not everyone has all the time in the world to wait for everyone to watch every cutscene. And in response, I had people telling me that “if [my] time is so important, maybe [I] shouldn’t play.” Or, here’s a thought, because my free time is so limited, I want to actually, y’know... enjoy it?
    Your average cutscene is at most 3-4 minutes for most content. This is not a huge ask. If you do not have free time to watch cutscenes and you are on such a tight schedule. Do not run content that may get you placed with randoms. You apparently do not have time for it. As a fellow full time worker I would be supremely surprised if a cumulative 10-25 minutes per nightly roulette gauntlet absolutely trashes your schedule.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    The argument is always along the lines of pulling during cutscene “ruins” players experiences. Well, on the other side of that, maybe waiting for cutscene for every single piece of content, and getting reemed out by the general public if you don’t conform also ruins players’ experiences. Is it not hypocritical to become the toxic person you’re claiming the puller to be? How does that make you the hero?
    You don't have to agree with the people who are getting toxic to have the position that you as someone who interrupts peoples cutscenes is ruining their experience. Just because those people are wrong.. does not make your position right.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 08-17-2021 at 10:54 AM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?