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    MaxCarnage's Avatar
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    Adiah Highborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    So you don't want to hear people's opinions you just want people to agree with you? Because that is what you are expressing trying to disparage anyone who disagrees with you before they even express a opinion. So here goes a good guy saying it's a common courtsey to wait for all party members to be ready and you should schedule your time better. Full stop.
    I never said anyone who disagrees with me is inherently bad, therefore I am not shutting down any line of conversation. I said the same people who get vitriolic in alliance will comment here with the same attitude. Reading comprehension. I guess everyone has their strawmans moment, though.

    Secondly, I have a full time job. I work 48 hours a week, not including travel time. But yes, let me schedule my time better, how dare I...
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    Baxcel Farshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Secondly, I have a full time job. I work 48 hours a week, not including travel time. But yes, let me schedule my time better, how dare I...
    Still no excuse for not waiting on cutscenes.. my work can keep me up to 55+ hrs each week and have over an hour drive to am from work.. I still respectfully wait for players to watch cutscenes
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    I like to wait for the players to finish the cutscenes because I deem it as being polite, so we can all start fighting the boss together. I was actually playing The Copy Factory yesterday and people started the fight without me before my cutscene had finished so I felt there was this rush to go in and help with the fight - it kinda put pressure on me to end the cutscene early and just get on with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Secondly, I have a full time job. I work 48 hours a week, not including travel time. But yes, let me schedule my time better, how dare I...
    Seriously you're defending not waiting because you have a job and waiting the few extra seconds it gong to matter in your real life schedule. Perhaps waiting also give time to people to apply the appropriate buffs and refresh those that rarely get applied when the fast pull tanks pull right away. That would also speed up the run. I simply love DR when the tanks pull instantly or the dps for that matter ever before i can apply Shell or Protect let alone any other damage buffs people might want to apply.

    Being courteous isn't a bad thing either you know.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-17-2021 at 08:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Being courteous isn't a bad thing either you know.
    It is when you are being courteous to the wrong people.
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    Player TroySoFab's Avatar
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    Troy La'fabulous
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    This is only a problem because SE has decided to add lengthy cutscenes to content people are wanting to farm. Personally I think during the first few weeks, it is courteous to wait for everyone to finish their cutscenes before pulling. Now that we are months and years into most content, I don't really think one needs to wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It is usually a common courtesy to let others finish their cutscenes before pulling anything. That is why it's an issue. When you are in a group setting, the world stops revolving around you.
    Yes, and it works both ways. The world does not revolve around the person watching the cutscene. Ultimately, if you really want to watch a cutscene you can view it again at an inn.
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    This is only a problem because SE has decided to add lengthy cutscenes to content people are wanting to farm. Personally I think during the first few weeks, it is courteous to wait for everyone to finish their cutscenes before pulling. Now that we are months and years into most content, I don't really think one needs to wait.
    I think we should still wait for them, as waiting for the cutscene (regardless what it is) sets the example for the newer player to follow. Look at it this way, do you want to skip through a cutscene, have a newer player learn it's OK, then have them return the favor to you when you wanted to watch the cutscene?
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    Player TroySoFab's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    I think we should still wait for them, as waiting for the cutscene (regardless what it is) sets the example for the newer player to follow. Look at it this way, do you want to skip through a cutscene, have a newer player learn it's OK, then have them return the favor to you when you wanted to watch the cutscene?

    As I said, during the first few weeks of content it is courteous to wait. After that, if I wanted to watch a cutscene I would use the book in the inn rooms to watch the cutscene. I like to be respectful of other people's time, some people are looking to farm content.
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    Titania40's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    As I said, during the first few weeks of content it is courteous to wait. After that, if I wanted to watch a cutscene I would use the book in the inn rooms to watch the cutscene. I like to be respectful of other people's time, some people are looking to farm content.
    So, according to you only your experience is important? And nobody new ever joins the game or plays something for the first time more then 2 or 3 weeks after it's release? Imagine that, I must not exist. In fact, the dozens of people I've grouped with in the last 2 weeks must not exist. In every dungeon or trial I've ran, there's been at least one person who had never done that dungeon or trial before. And that's stuff from the base game, which is far more then "a few weeks old." With the expansion releasing soon and the free login event (not to mention free trial through the 1st expansion) there are new players coming in. They have not ran the dungeons before, they have not seen the cutscenes before, and they may well not even know they even have an inn room... let alone that you can rewatch any cinematic you've (in theory) seen in it. Hell, I knew about that and only figured out last week how to access the rest of the cutscenes for a given story arc. I'd only known how to view the first one initially, and didn't figure the rest out until someone ruined my first run through of Thousand Maws by jumping into the boss fight while 3/4ths of the team are watching the cinematic. Which pressured us into skipping it, and ended up causing a wipe.

    If your time is so precious that you can't handle waiting for people to watch the cutscenes, why are you using Duty FInder to queue up for random groups to begin with? Shouldn't you recruit a few friends to go with you instead, so you're not waiting up to 50 minutes to get into each dungeon or trial? Especially if you're playing DPS, Duty Finder can take forever. Hands down, I've spent more time waiting for a dungeon then I have waiting for or watching cut scenes.
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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titania40 View Post
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    At some point, you have to realize, as much as you don’t care about another persons time, because of your experience, they equally have the right to not care about your experience as it interferes with theirs. You’re new? Cool. Maybe they have been here since the beginning. How many times have they sat through cutscenes? Doesn’t matter, because now its your turn. Only you matter. But they can’t feel the same way I guess.
    If its truly that important, and you don’t want to run the risk, runs premade with some friends. Set up a party finder. Join an fc and rally up some like minded people.
    If you feel so pressured into skipping a cut scene because someone pulled, well that’s a personal issue you have and only you can resolve. No one can force you to skip it. Calm down a bit. Everyone getting bent out of shape over a few minutes. Take matters into your own hands to prevent what you don’t want from happening. But lets not try to force our will on others. Not everyone is part of a hive mentality. Not everyone goals are the same. Not everyone plays this game with the same purpose or reason. So lets stop trying to force everyone to conform
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