Pulling During Cutscene

[Sotaris]

Dude insinuated i am mentally ill. I am. Hence it was personal attack by gcbtw standards.

I love how two faced some maniacs are
depending if person is on their side or not.
One thread its "you dont pay their sub" but when narrative is different and """u nonpay sub""" logic works against your cause it doesnt matter anymore.
You want me to conform. Follow your logic from "lazy players" thread and pay for my sub, if u want me to play your way and push your agenda on me.
If u do not want to buy me over, git and deal with the fact, that some people dislike fake goody two shoes.

I will ignore rest of your attempts at flame war, you are not worth the trouble and possible warn from fake reports to shut me up.

Huh? What are you talking about?
I didn't start any flame war. I'm commenting on your problematic posts.
If you can't handle a little bit of critism, I urge you to stay away from the internet or don't come here all big and cocky and call people names and talk down on them.

you sure are quick to take a lighthearted take on your seriously bad attitude to heart.
Just saying...having a mental illness does NOT give you a freepass on being an a-hole. Take this from someone who also is suffering from mental conditions.

You still decide on you own actions.

Couldn't agree more. No one gets a free pass on terrible behavior.

[Kolaina]

99% Sure that the OP and the pink haired lalafell that is defending the op is the same person who is trying to create a fake echo chamber and failing miserably at it. Both on faerie. Ones highest class is only level 33 and the others is barely above 50. Its pretty obvious whats going on here. Nothing to see. Move along

That would require 2 paid subscriptions to do that. And if it was same account, you’d only see one name. Good stretch though

[Sotaris]

That would require 2 paid subscriptions to do that. And if it was same account, you’d only see one name. Good stretch though

Multi-boxing is a thing, i heard.
I give you it's a lot work just to troll on forums but not like it would be the first time.

[Kolaina]

Ah yes, two people from the same server having the same opinion, must be multi-boxing. Does that mean everyone in this thread being rude from Jenova is also multi-boxing? Idk about the other person, but I post on my alt as to avoid targetted harassment. But yes, go ahead and try to shut down conversation by accusing those who don't agree with you as being the same person. 'Cause obviously, my opinions are so ludicrous that I am the only player who feels that way. These forums as a whole are an echo chamber. Anyone who steps out of line is shut down immediately by being deemed a troll.

It’s like eorzeas own twitter mob here

[Elladie]

Some cutscenes are long (I'm thinking Totorak and Stone Vigil here) I have lost count of times I've seen my party wipe because the tank wouldn't wait fot the person/s watching the cutscenes.

I also think it's pretty rude to go ahead and pull when you can clearly see one person - or more - aren't ready. Telling them they can watch the cutscenes some other time is very selfish; they are doing the story NOW, not some nebulous 'other time'. And what happens if every time they go in the dungeon, they get another impatient tank (it is generally the tank, I don't think I've seen anyone else do this).

You say 'the good people' as if it's a term of abuse. Since these 'good people' are the ones who are generous and unselfish enough to let the sprout watch the cutscenes without impacting their dungeon experience, I think that says a great deal about you, OP

[MaxCarnage]

Some cutscenes are long (I'm thinking Totorak and Stone Vigil here) I have lost count of times I've seen my party wipe because the tank wouldn't wait fot the person/s watching the cutscenes.

I also think it's pretty rude to go ahead and pull when you can clearly see one person - or more - aren't ready. Telling them they can watch the cutscenes some other time is very selfish; they are doing the story NOW, not some nebulous 'other time'. And what happens if every time they go in the dungeon, they get another impatient tank (it is generally the tank, I don't think I've seen anyone else do this).

You say 'the good people' as if it's a term of abuse. Since these 'good people' are the ones who are generous and unselfish enough to let the sprout watch the cutscenes without impacting their dungeon experience, I think that says a great deal about you, OP

I love Strawman's ever so much.

No, Elladie. I didn't say "good people" in reference to the people waiting. I said "good guys" in reference to the ones who get downright nasty to people for not conforming. The ones that yell obscenities to the puller, threaten bans, call them vulgar names. Those, and I'll say this ironically, good people. The ones who have to attack you to your very core to try and grandstand. And how many times do I have to say, I don't pull. In fact, it was the first sentence of my original post, yet somehow people overlook that. I said, "not speaking as the puller, but here's what I witnessed." Like, holy cow, people. You're all acting as if I'm the devil or something lol.

Half of the people who responded to this thread seem to have not read the original post, at all. They see what they want to see, read what they want to read, and then get angry about it.

This post was about the double standard. How the puller is the bad guy, and not these people getting nasty. I NEVER stated that anyone who waits is awful. I never stated that waiting is inherently wrong. I've said that the mentality of "if you pull during cutscene, I'll watch you die" is reportable. Never said I would report it, just that that is against ToS. But yes people, just keep Strawman-ing this post to the heavens.

I think your accusations, your twisting of words to turn me into a villain, says a lot about you, as well as everyone else who has done so in the past 30 pages.

I'm not here attacking anyone's character. I'm not here trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm stating my opinions. They differ from yours. Cool. Yet I have responses of people trying to villainize me, attack me, accuse me of trolling and trying to create an "echo chamber" to give my opinion some sort of validation. My opinions don't need any validation. And because of that opinion of mine, people are also making unfounded, and some even downright rude, assumptions about me.

I don't have to agree with you. And no one has the right to attack me because I don't.

[Rinhi]

Half of the people who responded to this thread seem to have not read the original post, at all. They see what they want to see, read what they want to read, and then get angry about it.

welcome to the OF, enjoy your stay

[Eris4494]

The best is when tank starts pulling or keeps pulling when healer is in a cutscene or dead and causes the whole party to wipe because of it.

[MiaShino]

The best is when tank starts pulling or keeps pulling when healer is in a cutscene or dead and causes the whole party to wipe because of it.

They do so because they are able to. Many of these tanks are often playing poorly though which causes much confusion.

It reminds me of another story involving friends! Boy does our luck seem bad or something..

There was a tank in Tam-Tara who only did small pulls and would keep moving the pack (WoW style chain pulling). Both friends were on dragoon and because they kept moving the mobs around could not keep attacking without sprint. For any who do not know this, attacking moving enemies as melee in FF14 can be feist inducing due to server tick rate. The mobs are next to you on your screen but are actually not according to the server. To elaborate, no they were not "wall pulling". They would engage one group, wait for one mob to die then start another pull and repeat.

She asked them to wait until one group is dead before moving them because it was preventing her from attacking. The tank responds with "No time" ... They then engaged the mind flayer while two others were watching the cutscene.

After reading this I am beginning to see alignment between group that is okay with ejecting sprouts from cutscenes and downright terrible gameplay. Here I thought I was the "toxic" one who only wishes for "speedruns". Now I am thinking perhaps it is more of an undiagnosed narcissism problem.

Another bit more directed towards original post and I am not saying it is acceptable to spew vitriol at others buuuuuut. Imagine being that sprout enjoying the story and going into a dungeon for the first time. You are learning how to play but your team is full of donkeys, the run is frustrating because the tank cannot maintain aggro and you keep being nearly killed. Ooooorrrr they are moving mobs around so you cannot attack and doing other disruptive things. You finally make it through and are presented with a neat cutscene when the words "Battle has commenced, you will be locked out of the fight in fifteen seconds" pops up in the center of your cutscene.

Your first thought is not probably going to be "Gee golly after this abysmal experience I sure am glad my team left me here to start the fight without me! I am having soooo much of the fun right now! This game is great!"

You may be experiencing frustration towards your team and that miiiight be the tipping point. You should not insult the person but there is understanding when it occurs especially if the offending player was making the run more difficult on top of being impatient. If this then occurs in every dungeon you do following, you may not be so kind the next fifteen times.

New players are attempting to enjoy the game too.. getting yeeted out of cutscenes or spawned into the wrong place during alliance raids that are already pretty confusing for them is not conducive to having fun. Then comes the "4 on pad!" "No one on pads again kek w" "Alliance X get on the damn pad". Well they might you see but two thirds of the alliance was telewarped into Zone 1 because someone pulled early soooo..

[TaleraRistain]

New players are attempting to enjoy the game too.. getting yeeted out of cutscenes or spawned into the wrong place during alliance raids that are already pretty confusing for them is not conducive to having fun. Then comes the "4 on pad!" "No one on pads again kek w" "Alliance X get on the damn pad". Well they might you see but two thirds of the alliance was telewarped into Zone 1 because someone pulled early soooo..

Ugh, jeez, I remind people in alliance chat every single time that we can wipe if they early pull there and why and they still do it. Not the new folks. It's always an impatient vet. Gotten the giants I don't know how many times.

But maybe we need that instead of unskippable cutscenes. Someone pulls before everyone is in the arena and another mob spawns and wipes the floor with them. Make it untargetable and able to one-shot everyone in there. People definitely don't early pull a second time after we wipe to the giants in LotA so could be time for some tough love in the rest of the game since people can't be polite on their own.

A lot of people in this thread are pretty much saying "SE, I can't be trusted to be nice to sprouts on my own. Please give me no choice". And I can't say I would blame SE if they listened.