SE: Please tone it down a hair

[Eagleheart]

You did his job for him twice.
In return? He gives you a report of his plans.
How does this make sense? Wouldn't you have said "hey, coolio." and turned back?

How difficult is it to understand the egomaniacal character archetype? He wants you to fight now. He has two things going: a twisted sense of honor, and a goal to accomplish.

He's egging you on with the knowledge that you can do nothing to stop him (he's likely right), but that you can do nothing but try, anyhow. He delights in that. He thinks he's won.

Your incapacity to understand the plot is not a fault with the script - it's the fault of your mindset. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, but you need to step back, review some of the CS in your room, and think about 'em. o.o

Refer to this page for details.

[Starlord]

Just because you understand it doesn't mean it was explained well (or couldn't have been explained better)....

the story is GREAT
the Dialogue is decent... but, as is the case with most things, it could be written better

Final Fantasy has always been in a weird place...
Stories written in Japanese, with themes that you wouldn't expect a western audience to accept....
Specific concepts like:
Sephiroth's (And Jenova's) will
The Guardian becoming the Final Summon which in turn becomes the new sin (Spoilers much?),
A Sorceress going back in time to harness the power of another who could take her further back in time to achieve time compression
Garland creating soulless beings to be future vessels of the Terrans....
Also, being written in Japanese, they feature references and anecdotes specific to Japanese culture.
But the result is... incredible and awe inspiring....
Somehow the localization teams always seem to take all of that Japanese goodness and make it so that we understand it, feel it, and don't miss out on any of the subtle nuances that make these games an experience

My point is... the current dialogue is not bad... it's decent... but doesn't quite live up to any of the past writing...
From this angle though, it's hard to tell if that is because of the writing, or something lost in translation as it was localized...

Is it bad dialogue.... no... but the magic isn't there.... It definitely isn't an Aaron Sorkin story...
It has nothing to do with how easy it is to understand (Although it could stand to be more concise)
Writing isn't judged only on how easy it is to understand... but also not by how pretty the words sound together...

There is a flow... a natural progression. the dialogue helps to weave the story... and this dialogue comes short quite a few times...


I had a thread that was a plot analysis and the prevailing comment was "Thanks, I've read all the text thus far and had no idea what was going on"
If you understand the story... great... good for you... but Stories aren't written to make you feel intelligent for being able to keep up....

Also... if the underlying story is great... but that point isn't getting across to most readers... then I don't know what else to blame than the dialogue

Again all opinions, and you have your right to have them, just don't pull them off as facts, and everyone is happy.. that's all I ask..

[Zaaku]

lol. damnit it took me this long to realize you are just trolling.

If by trolling you mean making a point then yes, he made an excellent one.

[Majidah]

I don't mind the current level of speech however a more simplified version like this video would suffice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M4wz4F3gSs

These are cut scenes from Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions (PSP). The speech isn't too complicated but keeps the seriousness of the situations that happen.

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Skies]

Oh and, to Rydin:
I also do believe that XIV as it stands now has a really friggen fragmented story that has been caused by the change in direction? Or at least something of the sort

[Rydin]

Again all opinions, and you have your right to have them, just don't pull them off as facts, and everyone is happy.. that's all I ask..

Most of what is said in a forum is opinion... that's a given...
It's almost impossible to view any story or dialogue objectively...

With that being said... there isn't anything wrong with saying "I feel like the dialogue is just ok... but isn't as memorable or magical as previous titles" is not a bad thing... and it's not out of place on the forum for said game.

If anything THIS is the place for these opinions

Oh and, to Rydin:
I also do believe that XIV as it stands now has a really friggen fragmented story that has been caused by the change in direction? Or at least something of the sort

Yes... that has to affect it...
Like those stories where you pass the baton and each person tells a piece of it... it can be tough to consistently relay all of the major plot points to the audience....

[Eagleheart]

If by trolling you mean making a point then yes, he made an excellent one.

The point is not valid. Several people here simply have nothing better to do than flail their arms wildly at problems that amount to nothing aside from their own personal preferences.

With that said, I must stand back and realize how fruitless this exercise is. o______O These threads would probably die off if sensible people did not post in reply to them.

Thus goes the story of the forums, I suppose.

[Starlord]

The point is not valid. Several people here simply have nothing better to do than flail their arms wildly at problems that amount to nothing aside from their own personal preferences.

With that said, I must stand back and realize how fruitless such an exercise is. o______O These threads would probably die off if sensible people did not post on them.

Thus goes the story of the forums, I suppose.

Auron~ This is your story.....

[Eagleheart]

Auron~ This is your story.....

Listen to my story. ._.

This... may be our last chance.

[Zaaku]

The point is not valid. Several people here simply have nothing better to do than flail their arms wildly at problems that amount to nothing aside from their own personal preferences.

With that said, I must stand back and realize how fruitless this exercise is. o______O These threads would probably die off if sensible people did not post in reply to them.

Thus goes the story of the forums, I suppose.

So in your traveled opinion, how would you rate the interior of your colon?