Less and less SE interaction with forums community over time

[Shougun]

There's like maybe 30 people who post here regularly, and it's mostly tryhards ranting and raving about how casual players and mindsets are making their Expert roulettes take 5 minutes longer.

Casual players are this game's backbone, so these forums couldn't be a more useless place for SE to get feedback that would actually help the game succeed.

I can say with confidence that there's more than thirty regular posters to be found. Many of whom are very much identify as part of the 'casual' crowd - myself included.

I was going to say, at least the first four to five people that instantly come to mind when thinking regular posters are casual players.

There are a few hardcore players certainly, but it is good to have feedback from multiple groups of people. Clearly the game caters to casuals but it's still valuable to get the hardcore feedback even if it's not catered to all the time (valuable to still acknowledge and make desirable / informed content when doing so, especially if you're not going to do as much, each content needs to be even more "what is desired" when there is less of it).

..... It would be nice to hear from them more often, or at least get a sense that we're not in a vacuum lol. I, imo, feel like we're not given that it seems likely a number of feedbacks I've seen here, or given, later show up in game (I'm sure some is just coincidence, but for all of it to be seems unlikely)- but it's a bit of 'faith'. Sometimes it's nice to have your 'faith' show up and pat you on the back, rather than thinking "maybe, probably,. .. definitely, I think so, I'm 90% sure that was 45% likely to be feedback based change! . . ." lol..

[DBriggs304]

Haven't seen much of either on this forum. At all.

[Laerune]

First page of the general discussion should be enough reason for SE to avoid this forum.

[Theodric]

First page of the general discussion should be enough reason for SE to avoid this forum.

Compared to...what, exactly?

Reddit? Twitter? Simply searching the FFXIV tag on the latter risks bringing up stuff far more disturbing than anything I have ever seen posted here.

Square Enix also has full control of this site. The only reason things are spiralling out of control periodically is due to the lack of a persistent, obvious presence. Which is something quite a lot of regular posters have been calling out for a while now.

[Lauront]

Compared to...what, exactly?

Reddit? Twitter? Simply searching the FFXIV tag on the latter risks bringing up stuff far more disturbing than anything I have ever seen posted here.

Square Enix have full control of this site. The only reason things are spiralling out of control periodically is due to the lack of a persistent, obvious presence.

Agreed. It's their forum, so any issues with the content here due to lack of moderation fall squarely on their shoulders.

[Lunalepsy]

They don't care. Don't worry!

[MintnHoney]

I agree, but when was teh last time on twitter some fool necro's something completely out of date?

Probably about the same time someone made a "DEEZ NUTS" joke. So, like, sometime in the last minute probably.

Frankly, Squeen is a company and should be able to handle themselves professionally even if the players who interact on the forums cannot. If we have to be concerned that Squeen can't handle themselves against feedback or general interactions with their little slice of public, then getting the forums moderated would be the least of my concerns for Squeens capability for public relations.
Then again, YP did say that he was going to avoid looking at feedback being received because it was "too harsh" so it hurt their feelings to read, some time ago, so I guess I don't really have any faith in their ability to interact with their players outside of barely coherent GM interactions anyway.

[ZedxKayn]

Then again, YP did say that he was going to avoid looking at feedback being received because it was "too harsh" so it hurt their feelings to read, some time ago

When did he say that?

[Iscah]

First page of the general discussion should be enough reason for SE to avoid this forum.

The first page of General Discussion is exactly why SE needs to spend more time on this forum and observe that the current standard of moderation is not working.

And it does need to be regular time spent, because a single glance suggests "the forum is a mess" but observation over time will make it pretty clear that most of the mess could be cleared up with better moderation.

[SturmChurro]

Yeah, and we've been talking about it for years, literally.