Less and less SE interaction with forums community over time

[Shougun]

There's like maybe 30 people who post here regularly, and it's mostly tryhards ranting and raving about how casual players and mindsets are making their Expert roulettes take 5 minutes longer.

Casual players are this game's backbone, so these forums couldn't be a more useless place for SE to get feedback that would actually help the game succeed.

I can say with confidence that there's more than thirty regular posters to be found. Many of whom are very much identify as part of the 'casual' crowd - myself included.

I was going to say, at least the first four to five people that instantly come to mind when thinking regular posters are casual players.

There are a few hardcore players certainly, but it is good to have feedback from multiple groups of people. Clearly the game caters to casuals but it's still valuable to get the hardcore feedback even if it's not catered to all the time (valuable to still acknowledge and make desirable / informed content when doing so, especially if you're not going to do as much, each content needs to be even more "what is desired" when there is less of it).

..... It would be nice to hear from them more often, or at least get a sense that we're not in a vacuum lol. I, imo, feel like we're not given that it seems likely a number of feedbacks I've seen here, or given, later show up in game (I'm sure some is just coincidence, but for all of it to be seems unlikely)- but it's a bit of 'faith'. Sometimes it's nice to have your 'faith' show up and pat you on the back, rather than thinking "maybe, probably,. .. definitely, I think so, I'm 90% sure that was 45% likely to be feedback based change! . . ." lol..

[Wolwosh]

Why is criticising your fav game considered such a bad thing on this forum?

[Kes13a]

Why is criticising your fav game considered such a bad thing on this forum?

criticizing is completely fine.

criticizing without supplying a way you can think it could be improved is just complaining.

that and some people cannoy agree with what would be considering improvements in someone else's opinion. so its not inherently bad, its just on forums, where there is often little inflection received from the written words, I think some may take it as just a horrible idea. I mean lets face it, while we may have a game in common, not all people can agree on what an improvement could look like, or entail to implement.

and some "criticism" is, lets face it, designed to cater to one persons play style, and since its teh forums, is likely not something a majority of players actually think, or want. and people conveniently forget that part.

[gotaname1]

Why is criticising your fav game considered such a bad thing on this forum?

Because people don't want their honeymoon period with the game to ever end.

[Hysterior]

Who would want to moderate this forum? XD
Even as a paid job I am sure they are swamped with tickets and get enough feedback from there directly.
+ Have you seen the topics on Page 1?

[Theodric]

Who would want to moderate this forum? XD
Even as a paid job I am sure they are swamped with tickets and get enough feedback from there directly.
+ Have you seen the topics on Page 1?

I'd be willing to do it.

I'm sure many others would as well, especially as a paid role.

[Hysterior]

I'd be willing to do it. I'm sure many others would as well, especially as a paid role.

I was (half) joking. CMs probably have a laundry list of stuff to do and forum moderation is at the bottom of that list.
But keep an eye on their recruiting page, you never know

[Loony_BoB]

I'd do it for free. I ran/moderated a massive vBulletin forum (Eyes on Final Fantasy) when it was getting over 50,000 posts per month (SE's FFXIV forums get approximately 20,000 posts per month). I've got tasked with cleaning up CricketWeb and other forums back in the day too and did it with easy success. Moderating doesn't require you reading every single thing, and with a team of ~5-10 people you can generally cover a huge amount of posts. The more you moderate, the more you set a standard, the less you have to moderate in future times. Back when SE Europe had a CM position open in the UK I wanted to apply for it but I'm based in Edinburgh and have a cat and flat, and didn't want to move, so stuck with my current job.

Honestly, moderating for some people is just a way to pass time, but getting a solid team together is very tricky, especially when you're a company and everyone represents you (I'm unsure if it's easier or harder if you pay people - you can tell people what to do easier if they are getting paid, but, well, you have to pay them and it's harder to let them go for that reason too).

Personally, I'm not as bothered about the moderation of these forums (although it would be great to see an active team setting a standard) so much as getting feedback from SE on the issues being raised and discussed. Or, I suppose a better way to say it, is that I'd like to see SE acknowledging issues and ideas here more often.

[Kes13a]

Or, I suppose a better way to say it, is that I'd like to see SE acknowledging issues and ideas here more often.

I disagree.

people will easily be given and inch and run with it for miles. especially on forums. a developer says something, and suddenly its either a controversy or an EXPECTED future implementation simply because a dev mentioned it. look at all the fuss generated over an icon for a job not even in the game yet that has ZERO history.

[Theodric]

I disagree.

people will easily be given and inch and run with it for miles. especially on forums. a developer says something, and suddenly its either a controversy or an EXPECTED future implementation simply because a dev mentioned it. look at all the fuss generated over an icon for a job not even in the game yet that has ZERO history.

They don't need to say much beyond a polite acknowledgement that feedback on a subject is being given to the development team.

It's not like they aren't already engaging with the community over on Twitter, at any rate - and this place, despite its flaws, is by far the more civil domain.