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    Shino Kyofu
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    Endwalker Ninja

    I don't really know what to expect in terms of changes or additions for ninja in the next expansion, but I know some things I would like to see.

    Currently I think ninja feels really good. It's got a lot of things to do and maintain. I think that what it could use would be some small quality of life boosts. Some of our passives seem extremely worthless. "All Fours" reduces our falling damage by a small amount, but I've found that in almost all dungeons there isn't even falling damage. I can't think of where in the game this could really be worthwhile. Then "Fleet of Foot" has a really meager movement speed increase. This movement speed increase isn't even taken into account while sprinting. Ninjas sprint at the same speed as any other class.

    I think that it would be nice if the "Fleet of Foot" ability's movement speed increase was another couple % and affected ninja's sprint movement speed as well. Maybe even consider letting ninjas run on water while sprinting just for fun.

    Then I think it would be nice if "All Fours" was removed and replaced with a passive that allowed our ninjutsus a chance to cause an effect. (20%~ Chance)
    Like give Katon a chance to apply a 9 second burn.
    Doton a chance to slow the target for 3 seconds with each tick of damage.
    Raiton a chance to stun.
    Hyoton a chance to root.
    Suiton a chance to increase damage to the target for 3~ seconds.
    Hyosho Ranryu a chance to bleed the target for 9 seconds.

    Overall just add some RNG to spice things up. I enjoy how ninja has to keep on its toes a bit as is. With these additional random effects going off it could add some more fun to the class.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Having played NIN and DNC extensively, I really don't think adding RNG is the right way to give extra "spice" to a job.

    Judging from the Endwalker benchmark, it seems like NIN might at least be getting a "finisher" for Bunshin that can only be used while the skill is active thus making it more then a simple passive increase.
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Midgardsormr
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'd like to see a zip attack added to our skills.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I don't exactly understand the point of the RNG.
    RNG for the sake of RNG is just generally bad design I think.
    And I say that as someone who enjoys the Chakra system on MNK ( currently, it used to be awful ).

    What NIN needs imo is one more thing in the filler phase, 123 + Ninki spender is too little imo.
    Personally I'd like to see Mutilate and/ or Dancing Edge come back in some form.
    And also for Hide to actually be useful beyond just the opening.
    I think that the ability in the Benchmark trailer that we saw NIN do might be the new Huiton and that it will deal damage and only be usable in combat.
    I think they said that they wanted to fix the RDM awkward opener so they might want to do this with NIN too, and I think it'd be cool if they let us do hide in combat and that's how we do trick attack and Suiton does something else.
    Suiton opening up for trick attack doesn't even make thematic sense imo.
    And it kinda sucks that a sneaky Ninja doesn't use their stealth ability outside of reseting Mudras in the opener.
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    dustdjinn's Avatar
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    Riku Reinhart
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    They are changing a lot of things around so we could see changes to NIN but i think they will focus on Smn (pet ai needs help) and Astro right now (redesigning nocturnal sect).
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