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    Well it's not that hard to learn about the semiconductor shortage that is going on atm. They even explained it in a statement. But i guess some Xaela still don't understand it.

    And it's not like the gaming industry is the only one that is hit by this. It's not like this "news" are going around in most media channels. It's not that hard to miss that most industries which produce hight tech stuff are literally forked by this shortage. There are even documentations out there about this!

    I mean heck many car factories had to stop their production cause of this shortage, how the heck can you miss such important news and be so entitled that you think this is a problem that is solved with throwing money at it? You guys think SE can just go to the next black market and order some thousand semiconductors? xD
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    Yeah it crashed, yes it's annoying.
    But it'll be fine.

    Not like they want to lose their entire EU community and they won't do anything so don't worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Yeah it crashed, yes it's annoying.
    But it'll be fine.

    Not like they want to lose their entire EU community and they won't do anything so don't worry.
    We need to indicate the problem anyway. Also, it's not just about the queues. The servers become unstable. I experience disconnects; it takes a lot of time for NPCs to load in the capitals, and so on.
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    I mean some crashes are fine. But what i'm worried about is that it will become very frequent. Just today i've had 3 Disconnects in a kind of short time span. And when the que is 3.600 players to get back in i feel it could get annoying very quickly. Espacially if you are in the middle of a dungeon or raid. Imagine trying to do a Savage or Ultimate fight and you all get these DC's with huge que times. It could make it so that it's just not possible to clear the content. Same with if there is lag. Lag on harder fights could make it so that players makes a misstake and will die, causing a wipe. So it does need to be adressed by Square enix atleast before Endwalker where the servers is going to be even more crowded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeldinX2 View Post
    I mean some crashes are fine. But what i'm worried about is that it will become very frequent. Just today i've had 3 Disconnects in a kind of short time span. And when the que is 3.600 players to get back in i feel it could get annoying very quickly. Espacially if you are in the middle of a dungeon or raid. Imagine trying to do a Savage or Ultimate fight and you all get these DC's with huge que times. It could make it so that it's just not possible to clear the content. Same with if there is lag. Lag on harder fights could make it so that players makes a misstake and will die, causing a wipe. So it does need to be adressed by Square enix atleast before Endwalker where the servers is going to be even more crowded.
    They already adressed the problem, lol.

    It is really not that hard to understand that this problem is something that can't be solved atm. It is really mindblowing how blind and just unwilling to learn some players are.

    But to make an easy example for you fellas. IF YOUR LOCAL FARMER CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES CAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE SEEDS DELIVERED, THEY CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES. They might have some potatoes still in stock, but they can't sell you the same amount they did until they get their forking seeds. AND THERE ARE NO SEEDS ATM. And throwing money at the provider of seeds doesn't help cause...ALL THE FARMERS WANT SEEDS AND THE PRODUCTION OF SEEDS TAKES TIME. So it will take time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    They already adressed the problem, lol.

    It is really not that hard to understand that this problem is something that can't be solved atm. It is really mindblowing how blind and just unwilling to learn some players are.

    But to make an easy example for you fellas. IF YOUR LOCAL FARMER CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES CAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE SEEDS DELIVERED, THEY CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES. They might have some potatoes still in stock, but they can't sell you the same amount they did until they get their forking seeds. AND THERE ARE NO SEEDS ATM. And throwing money at the provider of seeds doesn't help cause...ALL THE FARMERS WANT SEEDS AND THE PRODUCTION OF SEEDS TAKES TIME. So it will take time.
    They can solve it, they can rent space and then when they have theyr own servers update it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimcito View Post
    They can solve it, they can rent space and then when they have theyr own servers update it....
    And with what do you fill this space? Hot air? Servers need semiconductors. There are no semiconductors atm. What should they do anyways, double the amount of servers so you don't have to endure like 20min of login que? Would you like to pay double the sub fee for this too? I mean the money for this has to come from somewhere right?

    Stuff will calm down again, like it does after every new expansion release. Why the heck should you triple the amount of servers for something that will bother people for like some days? Sure you should ensure that everything is smooth. But you don't have to like overdo it to an extreme just cause some days were really busy. You don't just double the size of an highway just cause there is a traffic jam on a holiday. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    ... Would you like to pay double the sub fee for this too? ...
    Nah, just get rid of free loader login camps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    They already adressed the problem, lol.

    It is really not that hard to understand that this problem is something that can't be solved atm. It is really mindblowing how blind and just unwilling to learn some players are.

    But to make an easy example for you fellas. IF YOUR LOCAL FARMER CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES CAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE SEEDS DELIVERED, THEY CAN'T SELL YOU POTATOES. They might have some potatoes still in stock, but they can't sell you the same amount they did until they get their forking seeds. AND THERE ARE NO SEEDS ATM. And throwing money at the provider of seeds doesn't help cause...ALL THE FARMERS WANT SEEDS AND THE PRODUCTION OF SEEDS TAKES TIME. So it will take time.
    Yeah, Except it's not that simple. It's not like it's literally impossible to get new servers(or do something else to limit stress on the servers the already have). There are thing right now that is making it more difficult sure. It's just going to be alot more expensive since the supply is low and the demand is high. This said is it any wonder that people get upset if they literally can't play the game they pay a monthly fee for? It would have been smarter to have more servers before the shortage happened just in case things like this would have happned. Being proactive rather than reactive. Since the servers have been kinda full even before the surge of new players. This said i'm not that upset personally even if it might sound like it in this post. I'm just worried about the future since it would be sad if their success is ruined because of bad servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeldinX2 View Post
    Yeah, Except it's not that simple. It's not like it's literally impossible to get new servers(or do something else to limit stress on the servers the already have). There are thing right now that is making it more difficult sure. It's just going to be alot more expensive since the supply is low and the demand is high. This said is it any wonder that people get upset if they literally can't play the game they pay a monthly fee for? It would have been smarter to have more servers before the shortage happened just in case things like this would have happned. Being proactive rather than reactive. Since the servers have been kinda full even before the surge of new players. This said i'm not that upset personally even if it might sound like it in this post. I'm just worried about the future since it would be sad if their success is ruined because of bad servers.
    You don't get it, the production of semiconductors is VERY limited. And the producers have CONTRACTS. BINDING CONTRACTS. They can't just say...oh yeah we will sell to the one which throws the most money at us. The car industry needs them. Smartphones. Laptops. PCs. Everything that needs computers to run and yes cars also need these. Against these SE is like a small fish in a shark tank anyways even if there weren't these contracts which binds the producer to deliver to their contractors.

    The production time takes (average) 15 weeks. They have to be produced literally under lab conditions. They are literally produced in a nitrogen atmosphere.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-15-2021 at 02:30 AM.

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