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    [DEV] Materia mistake ? ?!

    I just went to meld some materia to a lvl 28 item and it turns out that

    Tier I is 1+
    Tier II is 31+.
    Tier III is 41+
    Tier IV is 41+

    Is this a mistake ?
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    Nope, pretty sure it's been like that. I know both III and IV were 40+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Nope, pretty sure it's been like that. I know both III and IV were 40+.
    Especially considering for those double-triple melds people go after T3s more so than IVs so they both have the same baseline.
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    Hmm that's pretty stupid really, oh well.

    Common sense would suggest that it should be

    Tier I is 1+
    Tier II is 21+.
    Tier III is 31+
    Tier IV is 41+

    But then common sense is not SE's forte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Hmm that's pretty stupid really, oh well.

    Common sense would suggest that it should be

    Tier I is 1+
    Tier II is 21+.
    Tier III is 31+
    Tier IV is 41+

    But then common sense is not SE's forte
    It makes more sense the way it is as far as the game is in my opinion. Your suggestion only makes sense from a purely numerical correlation standpoint.

    Levels between 1 and 30 are very fast and gear isn't worth much investment, thus low level materia is all that's needed and still unused.

    Levels from 31-40 are like a transition, and worth a bit better materia.

    Levels 41+ are meant to take the most time and thus get a higher grade of materia that people do actively invest in for gear.

    Tier IV is meant to be a pure tier, the best quality of materia, and thus isn't limited to it's own level zone but treated as essentially being powerful even to single meld.

    A lot of the stats on various uncommon drops are balanced around single tier III melds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    But then common sense is not SE's forte
    Definitely not. I mean, White Mages are pure nukers without any cure spells yes?

    >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Levels 41+ are meant to take the most time and thus get a higher grade of materia that people do actively invest in for gear.
    This pretty much.
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    Yea none of that makes any sense either Noctis.

    Basically you are excusing one flaw because of another.

    When PvP level brackets come into effect people will spend more time making mid range melded materia, in fact people I know are already doing so.

    Yoshi-p plan to slow down leveling in 2.0 as he has said a few times and will no doubt add more mid level content, so I think there should be options for people in that level range if they wish to pursue it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Definitely not. I mean, White Mages are pure nukers without any cure spells yes?

    >.>
    Go sit down with your toys dear, the adults are trying to have a discussion.
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    I don't see what flaw I am excusing it with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I don't see what flaw I am excusing it with.
    The speed of levelling obvious.. (power levelling for example)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I don't see what flaw I am excusing it with.
    Obviously the fact they used the common sense he said they lacked. Since as you stated, 41+ is where most people spend most of their leveling time as well as the where pretty much any gear worth using for the longest that wasn't purely u/u is in the 41+ range, especially during the 'optimal' stage of gear.

    He's not here to listen to reason Noctis, he's here to question SE's design for no reason.
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