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    Player
    Kozh's Avatar
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    You keep saying Billion dollar company. You do know how much it cost to run said company, to pay workers, to RD taxes, and all that other stuff?
    Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Mobile is where the big money is at
    SE do have several gacha games.

    It's not that it's unacceptable, but rather a jerk move from them. CC mount could have been ultimate, pvp, or the next BLU mount, but no gotta milk the players more I guess even though we already have to pay for subscription.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Do you?



    SE do have several gacha games.

    It's not that it's unacceptable, but rather a jerk move from them. CC mount could have been ultimate, pvp, or the next BLU mount, but no gotta milk the players more I guess even though we already have to pay for subscription.

    could have been, but does not mean it should have been.


    Like I said, as long as the quality of the game content does not come at the cost of the cash shop stuff. I personally don't mind this. MMORPGS are not as profitable as people make it out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    MMORPGS are not as profitable as people make it out to be.
    Not as profitable as mobile games for sure. But in every single earning reports from SE the last few years a lot of credit is given to XIV for their financial success.
    https://mmos.com/news/square-enix-an...ecord-revenues

    The cash shop certainly helps though, I give you that.
    I still don't like having this specific mount there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Not as profitable as mobile games for sure. But in every single earning reports from SE the last few years a lot of credit is given to XIV for their financial success.
    https://mmos.com/news/square-enix-an...ecord-revenues.
    The article quoted actually provides some rather interesting reading. The rest of this post isn't really about anything the poster said.

    Here's a breakdown:
    • Revenues for the company's MMO division came in at 13.6B Yen ($120M), up from 8.8B Yen ($80M) last quarter.
    • Revenues from mobile games also increased quarter over quarter from 20.3B yen to 23.7B yen
    • Publication revenues also soared quarter over quarter from 3.8B Yen to 5.1B yen
    • Traditional retail game sales came in at only 10.8B Yen since no major titles were released in the quarter.

    So, to be clear, the MMO division ranked second out of the four areas listed in the article, and only because of sales of a new expansion (note the 9B Yen from the previous quarter, which, after everyone has purchased the game, would drop back.)

    The MMO division does not drive Square Enix's revenues. It is, in fact, worth 14B Yen in revenue for a company that made more than 50B Yen in revenue/

    So - you can you tell me why, exactly, they should pay more attention to FFXIV than to the rest of the company's products?
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    Last edited by DPZ2; 08-14-2021 at 01:30 AM.

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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The article quoted actually provides some rather interesting reading. The rest of this post isn't really about anything the poster said.

    Here's a breakdown:
    • Revenues for the company's MMO division came in at 13.6B Yen ($120M), up from 8.8B Yen ($80M) last quarter.
    • Revenues from mobile games also increased quarter over quarter from 20.3B yen to 23.7B yen
    • Publication revenues also soared quarter over quarter from 3.8B Yen to 5.1B yen
    • Traditional retail game sales came in at only 10.8B Yen since no major titles were released in the quarter.

    So, to be clear, the MMO division ranked second out of the four areas listed in the article, and only because of sales of a new expansion (note the 9B Yen from the previous quarter, which, after everyone has purchased the game, would drop back.)

    The MMO division does not drive Square Enix's revenues. It is, in fact, worth 14B Yen in revenue for a company that made more than 50B Yen in revenue/

    So - you can you tell me why, exactly, they should pay more attention to FFXIV than to the rest of the company's products?
    Oh my god...

    The mobile sector is a drastically LOWER investment for high return. It doesn't affect their resources on consoles and PC games nowhere near anywhere you think because it doesn't need that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The article quoted actually provides some rather interesting reading. The rest of this post isn't really about anything the poster said.

    Here's a breakdown:
    • Revenues for the company's MMO division came in at 13.6B Yen ($120M), up from 8.8B Yen ($80M) last quarter.
    • Revenues from mobile games also increased quarter over quarter from 20.3B yen to 23.7B yen
    • Publication revenues also soared quarter over quarter from 3.8B Yen to 5.1B yen
    • Traditional retail game sales came in at only 10.8B Yen since no major titles were released in the quarter.

    So, to be clear, the MMO division ranked second out of the four areas listed in the article, and only because of sales of a new expansion (note the 9B Yen from the previous quarter, which, after everyone has purchased the game, would drop back.)

    The MMO division does not drive Square Enix's revenues. It is, in fact, worth 14B Yen in revenue for a company that made more than 50B Yen in revenue/

    So - you can you tell me why, exactly, they should pay more attention to FFXIV than to the rest of the company's products?
    This is also revenue, not profit. Which means expenses are not included.

    So... Yeah..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    even though we already have to pay for subscription.
    You don't HAVE TO do that though
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    It's rare that I feel really dissapointed with one of their decisions, but this is one of them.
    What a shame.
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    After all the cheering from the community about how "cheap" the Lunar Whale turned out to be I can't say I'm surprised about this.

    I'm sure the screenshots of hundreds of people in a Cruise Chaser train will be coming soon enough and it'll be pretty obvious why it's on the Mogstation.
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    not a good call at all, i support mogs costumes and emotes but CC as a paid mount was kinda too much.

    Putting it on Mogstation makes is less cooler than it could be, now will be just another wallet mount. Paid walls takes always the prestige of having a cool mount
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    Last edited by NeoDivinity; 08-13-2021 at 06:57 PM.

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