Market Wards are still GARBAGE post 1.22

[Atriant]

I still can't summon a retainer in uldah! Just because you can search in Grid and Limsa now doesn't mean anyone is actually GOING to! and by no means does anyone want to travel to Limsa or Grid to check their retainer. SE you need to scrap the whole idea of market wards and implement an Auction House. If you cannot because of 1.0 limitations then the least you could do is limit people to 1 retainer selling things per city so everyone has a chance.

-ps The whole premise behind the market wards is absolutely ridiculous. Where in the real world are you gonna see hundreds of ZOMBIES bunched together selling items, never moving, just standing around 24/7?

[Sanctus]

ummm..you don't have to travel anywhere to check your retainer other than any retainer bell. you can summon retainer at bell and then send it back to any ward in any city from any bell.

I accidentally left my retainer out of the wards overnight and got into uldah no problem on a full server

[Atriant]

Ok maybe you can check your retainer from uldah but that isn't going to convince anyone to actually go into the limsa or grid mercantile house to shop. And believe me I'm on Durandal and have checked the wards, every single one I might add, endlessly since 1.21 and can never get a spot other than stalls which get booted every 24 hours or so. If you were in my position you'd understand and if you ever are believe me you'll want to vent about it. Problem is that people who are already in a spot never get kicked out and don't have any reason to complain or vent until it happens to them.

[Atriant]

What SE is doing is isolating players from having the same advantage as others and that's just bad business plain and simple.

[tymora]

Perhaps SE should reduce the number of retainers allowed in the each city's markets and set it to 2/3 of server capacity.

Why 2/3?
3 cities => 1/3 of server population for each city.
Each person has 2 retainer, hence x2.

This way you force the entire server to split equally into all 3 cities whether they like it or not. This way the other 2 wards will be guaranteed to hit critical mass and people will use them.

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Not the most elegant or democratic solution in the world, but it should work well till 2.0.

[Denmo]

I spent a good chunk of my afternoon crafting gear, and had to warp to Uldah's wards to rent a stall just to sell it. While I was in there, I noticed lots of retainers standing around without a single damn thing to sell in their bazaars, just taking up space. Is this really how the system works? First come first serve?

Something should be done here, I say.

[Jokerz]

Aren't they revising the system in 2.0? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think we'll just have to tough it out till 2.0 finally drops.

[Denmo]

Aren't they revising the system in 2.0? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think we'll just have to tough it out till 2.0 finally drops.

Normally that's what I'd be saying, but in this case there's several very simple solutions, like weekly ward wipes, a time limit on retainers standing around, pay-for-permanence rather than pay-for-24hrs, boot retainers that have nothing to sell, etc etc etc.

2.0 is the end-all-be-all, sure, but that's still many months away.

[Jokerz]

Normally that's what I'd be saying, but in this case there's several very simple solutions, like weekly ward wipes, a time limit on retainers standing around, pay-for-permanence rather than pay-for-24hrs, boot retainers that have nothing to sell, etc etc etc.

2.0 is the end-all-be-all, sure, but that's still many months away.

True but I'm not really sure if a quick fix will actually fix the market system when it's horribly flawed as is. I'd kinda rather SE take their time and fix it right since any other tweak will become more of a minor inconvenience than anything.

At least you can search wares from the other cities from the same zone.:/

Honestly I'm hoping the whole retainer system gets scrapped, it just doesn't work with so many items in this game.

[Atriant]

Bet this guy has a retainer or 2 in the Uldah wards ^^