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    Is Minfilia always useless ?

    I mean Louisoix was the boss, he kicked ass. He even was able to withstand the the power of elder primal , for a time. She basically doesn't have any fighting powers and is commander-in-chief of Scions of the Seventh Dawn. The organization that is dedicated with eliminating primal treat. Theoretically she should be all powerfull , but in thruth she is the weakest of the all . It doesn't makes sense. Raubahn is the leader of immortal flames because he is the strongest and the most loyal of the flames and yet Minfilia is the leader is the leader of scions despite being the weaking of them.
    Can someone explain this paradox ? Even Papalymo would be a better leader then her.
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    yes.........
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    LOL don't worry that's not an uncommon opinion. And Minfilia serves a greater purpose later in the story so please look forward to it.
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    Adoratur Flosaruber
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    It's really annoying that people call Minfilia useless. I'll give you that they do her a disservice by not better highlighting her abilities, but she's the one who's running the Scions. She's the one who's managing your missions and making sure that everything's running smoothly. The fact that the organization is able to maintain close connections with the city-states to the point of being able to arrange meeting with their leaders on a regular basis is due to her work to show that they're a functional group even after Louisoix's passing.

    Being a leader doesn't have anything to do with whether you can beat up primals the easiest, it means that you are best able to negotiate with internal and external forces and manage your resources to accomplish your goals.

    Also side note, but pretty much all of the scions that are relevant in ARR can't touch a primal since none of them except Min and WoL have the echo.
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    The problem with Minfillia is that she's a diplomat and an administrator. So she doesn't get many chances to show her skills, since they happen off-screen. Dont worry, with as few spoilers as possible... it gets better.
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    Alenore Llohen
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    "The strong should lead" sounds like garlean propaganda! Mask off, Gaius!

    More seriously, why must she have powerful magicks to literally fill paperwork, cross intels, dispatch people, and other non-action role, in an organization all about gathering intel, watching threats and *sometimes* acting on it because they have the WoL.
    To build on your Ul'dah parallel, Nanamo has Raubahn, Minfilia has us.
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    The best soldier isn't always the best leader. Minfilia's strength lies in diplomacy and administration.

    What we see:
    "The Sahagin are trying to summon a primal. Stop them.", and then we go fight Leviathan.

    What we don't see:
    Minfilia sending out scouts, reading and writing reports, meeting with leaders and diplomats, hiring new employees, making sure those two scouts who hate each other aren't assigned to the same recon team, and the million other things that lead to getting that information in the first place.

    We only get called in after all the ground work is done and it's time to fight something. Minfilia is actually VERY good at her job. We just don't see it very often because most of what she does is really boring to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    "The strong should lead" sounds like garlean propaganda! Mask off, Gaius!

    More seriously, why must she have powerful magicks to literally fill paperwork, cross intels, dispatch people, and other non-action role, in an organization all about gathering intel, watching threats and *sometimes* acting on it because they have the WoL.
    To build on your Ul'dah parallel, Nanamo has Raubahn, Minfilia has us.
    Nanamo is only there because she is royal blood. Raubahn could do papawork all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    "The strong should lead" sounds like garlean propaganda! Mask off, Gaius!

    More seriously, why must she have powerful magicks to literally fill paperwork, cross intels, dispatch people, and other non-action role, in an organization all about gathering intel, watching threats and *sometimes* acting on it because they have the WoL.
    To build on your Ul'dah parallel, Nanamo has Raubahn, Minfilia has us.
    Louisoix was strong and yet he was totally against garlean empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    The problem with Minfillia is that she's a diplomat and an administrator. So she doesn't get many chances to show her skills, since they happen off-screen. Dont worry, with as few spoilers as possible... it gets better.
    That is why i think Papalymo would be better. He has brains and actually isn't as naive as Minfilia and Alphinaud .
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