Lack of pve content

[ClaudeHerel]

"You're playing the wrong game" = "You're not allowed to want this game to be better"

God I hate this community so much lol

[Alexandre_Noireau]

"You're playing the wrong game" = "You're not allowed to want this game to be better"

God I hate this community so much lol

And remember.
They are the good ones. Anyone else here is toxic and unworthy of even subbing.

[Ronduwil]

"You're playing the wrong game" = "You're not allowed to want this game to be better"

God I hate this community so much lol

"You're not allowed to want this game to be better" = "I don't understand that 'better' is a relative metric, and that many players are adamantly opposed to the change I want."

Please quit blowing responses out of proportion. Everyone wants the game to be better. Not everyone agrees that adding even more difficult content is better.

[Lanadra]

"You're playing the wrong game" = "You're not allowed to want this game to be better"

God I hate this community so much lol

I mean, I take it as a rather big red flag when people fleeing WoW are saying things in FFXIV should be changed to be more like it is in WoW. WoW isn't exactly doing very well right now, so from my perspective arguments are being made to make this game worse, not better.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

I mean, I take it as a rather big red flag when people fleeing WoW are saying things in FFXIV should be changed to be more like it is in WoW. WoW isn't exactly doing very well right now, so from my perspective arguments are being made to make this game worse, not better.

The reason WoW is doing bad is not exclusively due to game design.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The reason WoW is doing bad is not exclusively due to game design.

It was in decline even before the latest controversy. This was just the biggest tipping point for a lot of people that pushed them away finally.

[ForteNightshade]

Then why aren't you playing WoW instead of asking FFXIV to turn into that failure of a game?

Because I don't like WoW? I do, however, love this massive leap into logical extremes. Asking for M+ doesn't magically turn FFXIV into WoW anymore than putting a more cohesive story in WoW would make it FFXIV. Need I remind you Yoshida has outright admitted to have based the frame work of FFXIV on WoW. So much so, he mandated the entire dev team play WoW to better understand the genre.

Borrowing ideas from other games and innovating on them is good practice. M+ at its core is simply taking existing content and scaling it to a higher difficult either through sheer numbers or adding in new ways to approach the content; priority mobs, the need for crowd control and so forth. That concept isn't unique to WoW and could certainly work in FFXIV. In fact, the barebone version already does in Deep Dungeon. So maybe put your biases aside and stop telling people who want things you don't to "just go play WoW".

[Katie_Kitty]

We had 3 savages and 1 ultimates, which is equivalent to 1 week + 5 days prog (I assume TEA is 1 week prog), I will round to 2 week prog

I'll have what you're smoking because I've got no clue what the heck you're talking about. TEA is 1 week prog only for the most hardcore raid groups that go for several hours every day and have been world progging together for a while now. For everyone else it's a months-long affair.

And we have 4 savage fights per tier, 5 if you include wall-gated bosses like oracle of darkness.

Stop baiting... so sick of you people.

[Hyrist]

I don't have a problem with wanting improvements of the game.

It's when those expressed improvements are spoken out of spite, ignorance, and general disrespect that I get upset.

There's nothing wrong with saying this game is flawed, but the equivalent to most arguments here is 'It's broke, fix it!" With nothing more than a space glance at the actual situation - when this team, above so many other development teams, have taken such pains to explain situations to players why things are they way they are, the difficulties presented to them, and what solutions they can have - depicts these cirtisms as nothing short of bad fath arguments and whining for the sake of having something to complain about.

They're not perfect. I don't agree with all of their stances or solutions, but they've been on the level with us for years - and that's something you can't purchase. We understand their situations and choices, and the fact that's not even being regarded in any of these discussions is what devalues what could otherwise be good, constructive critisms that actually have a ghost's chance of being addressed, rather than just airing already answered or understood grievances.

That's my issue here.

Housing is a nightmare - there is no ready solution to the problem because it would take a "Realm Reborn" level of reconstruction of the item coding, and instanced structure to even begin to address the problems there. It's bad, and they programmed themselves into a corner with it. But there is no way to supply the massive demand for housing they have, therefore - they have to find a way to cycle housing based off of activity.

The alternative is public spaces occupied by ghosts in the game that are never playing, and their limited server space would be flooded with vacant towns, when there is an active need for players to use that space, and not enough supply for the demand as is.

So yes, it is YOUR problem that you can't take a break, and have enough cognizance to update your house.

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The argument on not enough PvE content in this game is silly - especially compared to the systems of other MMOs (My GF just uttered *coughcoughwow* as she saw that line.) We have a strong, reliable content cycle - and Ultimates were an addition, not a foundation.

I'm going to be blunt and say that the "Lack of PvE" argument is made in bad faith. When you consider the scope of content made in this cycle - we're netting equal if not more overall - and we are still in the Pandemic, which has to be bully pupated into people's heads to even acknowledge that that is a gigantic factor here.

When I see these arguments, they really boil down to one thing - Ego-Based content. "I want more of the thing that makes me say I'm better than other people." When you look at the complaints, that's what it boils down to. We have a small rotational exception with the standing request of "Midcore Dungeons" which I support (though the pitch is horrible as usual.) But buy in large the concept of "Content" inevitably falls to "I want something harder than anyone should reasonably be able to complete in a decent timeframe so I can consume my life and parade it as a shiny metal that validates my time.)

The thing is, that concept is becoming more and more dated and has evolved in FFXIV, when you consider the dedication level content like the Resistance Weapons, where it's less about heavy difficulty, and more about endurance and participation. So the 'content' is here. Players are having to make narrow slice quantitation in order to even have something to complain about which boils down to "I want the game to ignore everything else but what I want it to do exactly." - which is just inconsiderate.

You're more than welcome to take small breaks from the game to space out your accomplishments - or barring that, diversify your gameplay into hobbies that are sustainable and less intensive.

There is a massive backlog of content in this game to enjoy ranging from the silly and casual to the intense and difficult. Don't limit yourself to a single slice - and if you asking for improvements on your slice - then keep it considerate of the community at large.

Otherwise you're just being needlessly salty.

(And now I'm really gone. Time for my next forum hiatus.)

[KizuyaKatogami]

All the house whiners.. you knew how the system worked, yet you pressed yes. You whine that it's a 'stupid system', okay, as TTiscancer said above.. what does that make you then?

Someone that has to deal with the system because people like you try to silence others who offer criticism about it. Please, if you’re not going to contribute anything and are just going to piggyback off someone else’s post just don’t say anything at all. It’ll make yourself look better in the long run.