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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Well, not trying to be mean, but jobs change quite a bit depending on level. You (OP) may know how monk plays at 34 but the job is very different at 60/70/80. So in a sense until you have the full kit of a job, you can't be said to fully understand it, at least in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say one needs a job of each role at 80 before they can attempt to say they understand how the game truly plays since then they'd have exposure to all variations of responsibility.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    I'd rather the game tell me if someone is new so I can tell them not to wipe our group by chasing us down with AoE ( the markers don't always stay consistent some are unique to the fight ).
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    I am sorry...
    But I have a VERY hard time believing that you got booted in a low level dungeon for being new...
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    Pixie Titania
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    Not the stated reason, no. The group last night claimed it was because I wasn't contributing DPS due to not using an aoe (which I didn't have access to). And the previous time, the reasoning was "wasting our time by watching a cut-scene".
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    Chymea Sum
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Titania40 View Post
    Not the stated reason, no. The group last night claimed it was because I wasn't contributing DPS due to not using an aoe (which I didn't have access to). And the previous time, the reasoning was "wasting our time by watching a cut-scene".
    You were better off not in the group that wasn't willing to listen to someone who was on the class that they didn't have an AoE skill at that level. Especially in Copperbell Mines. Hope their replacement was a Dragoon/Lancer so they could continue to not have someone who could AoE.

    As for the kick for watching cut scenes. If someone claims that in chat in game, report them. That's not acceptable. Especially if you're doing that dungeon for the first time and even moreso if it's one of the ones with story in it and there are a handful of longer ones in game with story cut scenes before final boss or upon entering.
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    Billy Shears
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Titania40 View Post
    Not the stated reason, no. The group last night claimed it was because I wasn't contributing DPS due to not using an aoe (which I didn't have access to). And the previous time, the reasoning was "wasting our time by watching a cut-scene".
    You do realize that in this game, that kind of stuff is actionable, right? Both of these, if they are as you described, fall under misuse of the vote-to-kick system. So, next time people kick you out of a group for "watching a cutscene," or not using AoE that your character doesn't have access to, file a report.

    I mean, IMVHO it's not worth filing a complaint. But it's certainly more productive than coming here to complain.

    On topic: I've rarely seen a nicer, more reasonable group than the FFXIV community. For better or worse, I've spent the majority of my life behind a computer screen, communicating with people out there on the internet (since the days you had to dial in with a state-of-the-art 1200 baud modem), so I have many thousands of hours of experience with different online communities. The FFXIV community is like a glowing angel with a halo compared to the forums and community of "the other leading MMO".

    - Discussion here is more civil, constructive, and on-topic than what is commonly seen. I'm comparing this to the last two MMOs I played; my post counts on their forums are some 8,000 total, so I have a fair idea of how folks tend to behave, how they react and what topics they like to discuss.

    - Random groups in this game are far more friendly, considerate, helpful, and positive than elsewhere. My sample size on this, so far, is admittedly quite small. ~175 hours of gameplay, ~50 random groups including light and full party stuff, trials and raids, normal and hard modes. Out of those fifty groups, I've been greeted maybe 48 times, thanked about the same number, made a lot of mistakes, did a couple dumb things, and learned as I went instead of looking things up. I've not had a single complaint from another player yet. To the contrary - I've had other players try to help out when I'm having trouble nearly every time I'm doing something noobish and dumb. This leads me to believe my gaming experience won't change drastically as I spend more time here.

    /shrug. YMMV I guess.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-12-2021 at 09:30 AM. Reason: Expand on my point.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    I mean... people are going to be able to tell that you're new even if you turn the icon off - they can check your profile quite easly, see what your highste level class/job is and conclude from that that you cant have been playing that long. The sprout icon just makes a little easier/more convient/obvious.
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    I think Moonfish means permanently remove- you can use the command to temporarily remove it, but you'll have to do that every login I believe.
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    I've done more than 5 rerols for different reasons, it doesn't come off at every login. It's permanent.

    /novicestatus off

    It's funny who talks without checking.
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    I was replying because it seemed Moonfish said permanently- however since the sprout icon didn't exist when I started I never had to worry about it. However I'd still believe having it on is more helpful than hurtful. People honestly seem to go out of their way to be more kind to sprouts.
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