Open plea to the Devs

[Kniteroad]

Sorry but that's a bunch of BS. No crafter needs to be able to garden to craft any item. The marketboard exists for a reason - so players can buy/sell items that one has and the other needs.

Lack of gardening only means lack of self-sufficiency and that's actually bad in a MMORPG where player interaction is part of the experience.

Still, SE needs to do something about the housing situation so every player can have access to all housing features as long as they meet the stated requirements to purchase.


The lottery does not fix anything. It just shuffles the problem around. All it does is guarantee that player to player house sales will be rely more heavily on transfer of FC leadership.

I'm not sure why you're so against removing gardening from housing unless you make most of your gil from selling gardening items. There are plenty of mats that come from gardening that certain crafts require. Giving people the reasonable ability to obtain those mats can only be a positive. Telling then "oh well you can buy it on the market board" is a terrible argument.

and the lottery is not meant to fix anything, it is meant to prevent people from "hurting" themselves and blaming SE for their "health problems" from camping a plot for 24 hours straight. This is the epitome of what I call "tide pod culture" where some people apparently no longer have the wherewithal to care for themselves and need an adult to do it for them. The lottery is a band aid to a bad system while they take the necessary time and allocate the proper resources to figure out how to reasonably solve the housing problem.

[Nepentha]

I'm not sure why you're so against removing gardening from housing unless you make most of your gil from selling gardening items. There are plenty of mats that come from gardening that certain crafts require. Giving people the reasonable ability to obtain those mats can only be a positive. Telling then "oh well you can buy it on the market board" is a terrible argument.

and the lottery is not meant to fix anything, it is meant to prevent people from "hurting" themselves and blaming SE for their "health problems" from camping a plot for 24 hours straight. This is the epitome of what I call "tide pod culture" where some people apparently no longer have the wherewithal to care for themselves and need an adult to do it for them. The lottery is a band aid to a bad system while they take the necessary time and allocate the proper resources to figure out how to reasonably solve the housing problem.

I've said this before but it's actually explained in psychological experiments. Look up the variable ratio schedule sometime. It's the reason gambling becomes so addictive.

It's why this placard clicking idea was a terrible one from the get-go. But, people wanted a way to stop the resellers from snatching up demo'd homes and flipping them for ridiculous prices, so they all thought this was a miracle that would put an end to it.

In practice, no. It's a terrible idea. Housing resellers/flippers easily adapted and their operations are still ongoing and they are all laughing their way to the gilbank. Meanwhile, players are in a variable ratio schedule experiment in hopes this latest bar press will give them that food pellet... I mean house.

Now people want a lotto. Which in theory sounds great and makes frustrated players feel this is the panacea. Let's see how they enjoy it in practice.

Honestly though, all of this can be solved by SE rethinking their approach to housing. They need to significantly increase the number of available houses (which they can't right now due to hardware issues) or finally cave and give us instanced housing.

[Kniteroad]

I've said this before but it's actually explained in psychological experiments. Look up the variable ratio schedule sometime. It's the reason gambling becomes so addictive.

It's why this placard clicking idea was a terrible one from the get-go. But, people wanted a way to stop the resellers from snatching up demo'd homes and flipping them for ridiculous prices, so they all thought this was a miracle that would put an end to it.

In practice, no. It's a terrible idea. Housing resellers/flippers easily adapted and their operations are still ongoing and they are all laughing their way to the gilbank. Meanwhile, players are in a variable ratio schedule experiment in hopes this latest bar press will give them that food pellet... I mean house.

Now people want a lotto. Which in theory sounds great and makes frustrated players feel this is the panacea. Let's see how they enjoy it in practice.

Honestly though, all of this can be solved by SE rethinking their approach to housing. They need to significantly increase the number of available houses (which they can't right now due to hardware issues) or finally cave and give us instanced housing.

Fair point. There is probably a kind of gambling addict aspect to the whole issue. I was more commenting on those who keep creating posts and comments that they made themselves sick or developed a new chronic health problem and will now sue SE because they can't responsibility for themselves.

[Nepentha]

Fair point. There is probably a kind of gambling addict aspect to the whole issue. I was more commenting on those who keep creating posts and comments that they made themselves sick or developed a new chronic health problem and will now sue SE because they can't responsibility for themselves.

Yeah, I agree there. Some part of me does hold SE responsible for putting this system in place and leaving it in place for this long despite it obviously being bad. But in the end, all of us have to take responsibility for our own health, physical and mental.

[True-to-Caesar]

Yeah, I agree there. Some part of me does hold SE responsible for putting this system in place and leaving it in place for this long despite it obviously being bad. But in the end, all of us have to take responsibility for our own health, physical and mental.

Indeed, I was so happy when I started the game a few weeks ago, planning what I’d do with a house, the layout, retainers etc.
Then when I actually saw what was in store, it was really heartbreaking.

An appartment is okay but extremely limited. I think I’ll just save my money until something good comes along, if there’ll be any real major change.

[Uvi_AUT]

NO! Not instanced housing! More housing-instances! I dont want to be alone at my house. ESO`s housingsystem sucks.
Why cant the Devs simply make more Instances, now that they see how many new players are there.

[Sotaris]

Why cant the Devs simply make more Instances, now that they see how many new players are there.

Multiple reasons.

1. They want housing to be a rarity and premium
2. Costs. They need to invest in new server hardware and atm at least there is a shortage on getting servers + travel restrictions
3. Housing isn't a priority on the dev team

[Kniteroad]

NO! Not instanced housing! More housing-instances! I dont want to be alone at my house. ESO`s housingsystem sucks.
Why cant the Devs simply make more Instances, now that they see how many new players are there.

The weird thing is, as someone who has been lucky enough to have a house, I rarely ever see anyone in my neighborhood. I don't think I am alone there. I think the idea of a neighborhood was a fun idea of YoshiP but it didn't really happen. Anyone else's experience different?

[Sotaris]

The weird thing is, as someone who has been lucky enough to have a house, I rarely ever see anyone in my neighborhood. I don't think I am alone there. I think the idea of a neighborhood was a fun idea of YoshiP but it didn't really happen. Anyone else's experience different?

It was a huge deal 2013-2016 or so.
I don't see many either in my ward and the issue is people buy their house and then don't do anything with it. I decorate mine and change it time to time.

In my FC ward I see sometimes like 2-3 people outside of people in my FC.

[Besame]

The weird thing is, as someone who has been lucky enough to have a house, I rarely ever see anyone in my neighborhood. I don't think I am alone there. I think the idea of a neighborhood was a fun idea of YoshiP but it didn't really happen. Anyone else's experience different?

Same as you. I have not seen anyone at my personal med house in the LB except for a hunt team member that drops by to sign my book with some silly altered or invented adage occasionally for about 2 yrs. My neighborhood ward and the MBs are a ghost town. I find I look forward to seeing my friend's zingers lol. In my small FC, I only see the members. The rest of that ward is also empty of life. I'd be fine with an instanced solo plot that I could assign public or private (friends) entry to.