I really hope than Fandaniel and Zenos are not... (spoilers)

[Kolsykol]

They'll probably be the final bosses of the base story, but not of the whole expansion.
Sorta like Emet Selch.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Out of nowhere, it's Necron!

[Chekopacheko]

Out of nowhere, it's Necron!

Oh boy, that would be hilarious

[Kozh]

To me Zenos is very human. He speaks of that human nature and does not wear any masks on what he is and what he wants. How far he is willing to run over anyone and everyone to get what he wants. Nothing so far we seen push him to that. I think people don't like him because he hits home to people human nature a little too much. He is brute force and people find it harder to accept someone evil without being a victim. I love that he is not one. He is just selfish.

"human nature".. Lol we get it, you're edgy XD

Kinda amusing seeing you deemed raubahn boring, but Zenos isn't. From 4.0 we already knew what sort of person Zenos is. Someone who won't stop until he gets what he wants. Considering how much he's going on and on and on about wanting to fight us again, it's not surprising he caused a calamity just for that. Nothing is more predictable than him. Unless the writer decides to ""subvert our expectation"" by adding twist near the end.

Chaos=/= exciting

[Wavaryen]

"human nature".. Lol we get it, you're edgy XD

Kinda amusing seeing you deemed raubahn boring, but Zenos isn't. From 4.0 we already knew what sort of person Zenos is. Someone who won't stop until he gets what he wants. Considering how much he's going on and on and on about wanting to fight us again, it's not surprising he caused a calamity just for that. Nothing is more predictable than him. Unless the writer decides to ""subvert our expectation"" by adding twist near the end.

Chaos=/= exciting

I mean if seeing just how messed up the world is, and able to enjoy people being evil in a story makes me edgy. I guess I will be edgy? Like, stories are so boring when every bad person we go against is a victim. I mean I guess it is cool to hate "edgy people" but predictable is all in the eye of the beholder. "Spoiler moment" Him taking his own life, was not predictable to me. To be that selfish, and come back to kill off his family and empire. Like, I don't see how anyone can say he has been predictable.

And chaos is very much exciting, like I said. I roll my eyes every single time a bad person is just a victim and lashing out like a child. I want someone just plain cruel, and that is what we got.

[Imora]

I find fandaniel boring.

Chaotic evil villains are boring.

And I'm pretty sure that no at the end of 5.5 was Venat, so I'm not sure they'll be it either.

[TheMightyMollusk]

First you'll have to define "pure evil", because it's pretty vague.

[TeraRamis]

First you'll have to define "pure evil", because it's pretty vague.

No, it really isn't. A 'pure evil' person would never miss any opportunity - period - to commit an evil act, because he or she would be incapable of doing good. They'd do everything from slam car doors on people's hands, to flambéing all the neighborhood pets, to stabbing their own mother with a fork. Nothing - nothing - would be safe, immune, or held sacred. Every single chance to do wrong would be exercised.

Nobody has ever been wired that way - nobody. No person could function like that.

[TheMightyMollusk]

No, it really isn't. A 'pure evil' person would never miss any opportunity - period - to commit an evil act, because he or she would be incapable of doing good. They'd do everything from slam car doors on people's hands, to flambéing all the neighborhood pets, to stabbing their own mother with a fork. Nothing - nothing - would be safe, immune, or held sacred. Every single chance to do wrong would be exercised.

Nobody has ever been wired that way - nobody. No person could function like that.

That's not "pure" evil. That's "stupid" evil.

[TeraRamis]

That's not "pure" evil. That's "stupid" evil.

Nope, that's pure evil. Because anything less than that isn't pure evil. I never said that pure evil was smart - of course it isn't. But that's the bar we're measuring our dear boy Zenos by: his stupid obsession with doing nothing but evil for no reason.