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    Quote Originally Posted by Snov View Post
    This post is for people to protest the current land system that imprisons people.
    I'm imprisoned all year long cause if I unsub for 45 days I lose my houses. But no one is putting a gun to my head. I happily sub cause i also find the game fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    I'm imprisoned all year long cause if I unsub for 45 days I lose my houses. But no one is putting a gun to my head. I happily sub cause i also find the game fun.
    Same here Sotaris. I would most likely unsub for periods of time if I was not tied to a FC and house. SE knows this and holds demo over our heads. It's like any business, all about the Benjamins. At least the sub isn't too costly and I can always slip in for a couple of hours of activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Same here Sotaris. I would most likely unsub for periods of time if I was not tied to a FC and house. SE knows this and holds demo over our heads. It's like any business, all about the Benjamins. At least the sub isn't too costly and I can always slip in for a couple of hours of activity.
    Yeah I agree. I mean the sub is like 1 lunch in my country so I don't really cry about it. It just sucks in a sense that we're "forced" to re-sub in order to keep our hard work getting our houses for ourselves and the fc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Yeah I agree. I mean the sub is like 1 lunch in my country so I don't really cry about it. It just sucks in a sense that we're "forced" to re-sub in order to keep our hard work getting our houses for ourselves and the fc.
    I hear ya and we Americans don't like to be "forced" into anything lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Yeah I agree. I mean the sub is like 1 lunch in my country so I don't really cry about it. It just sucks in a sense that we're "forced" to re-sub in order to keep our hard work getting our houses for ourselves and the fc.
    If you time it right, you can be unsubbed more of the year than you are subbed and still retain your house.

    30 days subbed, 40-44 days unsubbed, repeat. If you get lucky and there's a free login campaign that starts the last 10 days of your unsub period, you can skip a subbed period.

    I still don't get why people find it so important to own a house in this game when they don't have much interest in playing the game more than a couple of months each year. There are other games with much better housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you time it right, you can be unsubbed more of the year than you are subbed and still retain your house.

    30 days subbed, 40-44 days unsubbed, repeat. If you get lucky and there's a free login campaign that starts the last 10 days of your unsub period, you can skip a subbed period.

    I still don't get why people find it so important to own a house in this game when they don't have much interest in playing the game more than a couple of months each year. There are other games with much better housing.
    I'd enjoy a 3-4 month break and then return when I felt like it. Right now, I had my chars maxed in everything including armor of my choosing a couple months ago The new stuff doesn't begin for several months and I'd like to focus on other things including knee surgery, without worrying that my house, furnishings, (which I have worked hard for), will still be there while jockeying to take time away. The last thing I want is to get involved in another MMO when I do enjoy this one off and on and cannot devote the time to it now. I think time away off and on might make the play even more fun with less repetition and I intend to make this my last MMO after playing them for 24+ years . It's just kinda hard to let go even though you should ya know???
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    Last edited by Besame; 08-08-2021 at 02:47 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I still don't get why people find it so important to own a house in this game when they don't have much interest in playing the game more than a couple of months each year. There are other games with much better housing.
    Cause..

    1. I worked my kitty butt off to get enough gil to buy my Large years back
    2. I'm FC lead in my fc so if I go my hard work to get us a nice fc house and the fc structure i worked hard to maintain would fall into someone else that I don't want.

    Soooo i'm kinda "forced" to re-sub but as I mentioned in my post before you must've seen since you're quoting me that even though I'm "forced" I still enjoy the game, just don't like the idea of me having to cause risk of losing what i worked years to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Cause..

    1. I worked my kitty butt off to get enough gil to buy my Large years back
    2. I'm FC lead in my fc so if I go my hard work to get us a nice fc house and the fc structure i worked hard to maintain would fall into someone else that I don't want.

    Soooo i'm kinda "forced" to re-sub but as I mentioned in my post before you must've seen since you're quoting me that even though I'm "forced" I still enjoy the game, just don't like the idea of me having to cause risk of losing what i worked years to get.
    If you're worried about your FC and your leader status within that, its not the auto-demolition thats "forcing" you to stay subbed. The passing on of the leader status (after 35 days iof the leader not logging in) has been active before the auto-demolition even was a thing. So if you dont want to lose your FC, you have to stay subbed (and log in) within even shorter intervals than the housing timer would allow. (personal sidenote: as a member I would also be a bit irritated if the leader only showed their face once every 35 days to keep their title and didnt really engage with the FC, so I'd probably leave the FC).

    In regards to the FC-house: as a reminder, every member of the FC can reset the timer. So as long as you're not in a one-man FC or one thats basically dead, there is probably no need to worry about an FC-house.

    While the auto-demolition is unfortunate, it only really effects your personal house - but since you need to stay active to keep your FC before the demolition timer even kicks in, its not really the house that "forces" you to stay subbed.
    Even if there was no auto-demolition and actually even if there was no leader-demotion, you'd still lose what you built if you unsubbed for long periods of time - and if only because I doubt that your FC would stay in a frozen state of nothing changing and that people would still behave the same way (or even stay in the FC) if you were gone for long periods of time...
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