*SPOILERS* Terrified for the remaining Scions!

[MikkoAkure]

I wouldn't put any stock in fan-made timelines considering that the writers themselves have contradicted themselves over and over. Until someone from the dev team specifically says what year it is now, it's best to go along with what Koji said and that we're in a time bubble.

If 5 years had passed since ARR, then the twins would be 21 now, which doesn't make any sense considering there are fully grown adult elezen who are 21 according to the lore book. It's easier to assume that the writers for Bozja made a mistake or the character over-generalized than to say that the whole story has progressed a lot further than anything else would suggest.

[RyuDragnier]

I wouldn't put any stock in fan-made timelines considering that the writers themselves have contradicted themselves over and over. Until someone from the dev team specifically says what year it is now, it's best to go along with what Koji said and that we're in a time bubble.

If 5 years had passed since ARR, then the twins would be 21 now, which doesn't make any sense considering there are fully grown adult elezen who are 21 according to the lore book. It's easier to assume that the writers for Bozja made a mistake or the character over-generalized than to say that the whole story has progressed a lot further than anything else would suggest.

Want to know what wouldn't make sense right now with a time bubble? That every expansion up until now was done in a single year. THAT is far worse of a nonsensical logic, and I question the sanity of anybody, ANYBODY who believes such rubbish. No, the fanmade timelines make more sense.

[Rannie]

it's still happening in that time bubble however. Encyclopedia Eorzea Volume HAS the official time line in it minus some varying Retcons which make things happen at an earlier date than was previously said to keep everything in the time bubble year for ARR at 1577 some of this is on page 52 of EE V1. Also when when you start up a new game plus for StormBlood it states 25 years go for when DOMA was invaded by Garlemald. Which corresponds to when Doma was invaded and taken over in EE V1. If I had the book with me currently (at work) I would give you the exact page number and the exact year that it happened. So far there has only be minor retcons for the year things happen in but the never change the date for the time bubble that we are currently in. Again which is 1577 and the twins are 16 which, if memory serves me correctly, Alphinaud still states that he's that age when he's talking to Arenvald.


Also another Mention of the time and it still being in 1577 is when we are helping you know who with a gundam and the Elezen from Ala Mhigo reminds us that 20 years ago Ala Mhigo fell, again falling in line with not only when it fell as well as when Ascillia's (Minfillia's) own father fell to the Gobbue 10 years prior to the start of 1.0 and the fall of Dalamud

[MikkoAkure]

Want to know what wouldn't make sense right now with a time bubble? That every expansion up until now was done in a single year. THAT is far worse of a nonsensical logic, and I question the sanity of anybody, ANYBODY who believes such rubbish. No, the fanmade timelines make more sense.

That's the thing though. You're not supposed to think about it. This game was built more around "lot of cool stuff happening" that the writers figure out will happen when it's time to write another expansion. They've already established that there will be no time progression in interviews so that new players aren't left behind. I don't agree with that choice of style but it is what it is.

You can sit there and headcanon as much as you want or fight RPers on the "correct" timeline of events but it doesn't matter if the writers don't care and and just shrug at or dismiss questions regarding the timeline.

[Iscah]

Because he's a downgraded version of the Exarch. Dude went from a hundred + years old Crystarium leader to a shy 16 yo WoL fanboi. It makes no sense.

For the record, he's 24.

Because they explicitly state multiple times throughout the story, the farther he is from the tower, the weaker he gets. [...] So when he’s taken to the bottom of the ocean, the farthest he’s ever been, while also having been shot, really he should be the weakest he’s ever been. Yet he’s somehow able to summon 7 wol for the hades fight, despite not even being able to do that while under the full power of the crystal tower, he failed 4-5 times and that was just to get us, one person. Meanwhile he’s able to replicate it 7 times while being the farthest from the tower he’s ever been. If they had at least had him sacrifice himself to do it that would make a bit more sense than what we got.

I don't see why that is a plot hole, so much as an indication of how much power he can draw for a final desperate attempt versus how much he usually dares to use. He no longer needs to reserve his strength for the future.

From what we saw in 5.3, it may well have cost him another bout of crystallisation that we couldn't see then.

Also it took him several tries to get the summoning process right, but he called you in the end. That means he knows how to do it properly now. And there's a degree of bending story logic for the sake of gameplay – he wouldn't have summoned people if this was a movie and you weren't about to go into a gameplay trial with seven random people out of nowhere.

If that's going to spoil the whole story for you, then you're looking for reasons to be spoiled and unhappy about it.

And I really don't like that they played up the all but romantic angle with him, to the point where he was willing to abandon his own granddaughter just to go gallivanting around the Source with us—that was even before Elidibus took the choice out of his hands. But most of all, I don't like how little the original G'raha Tia's existence was taken into account in the process. To me, it feels less like a fusion between their two souls and more like the Exarch has erased his past self and taken over his body.

I don't necessarily want him to die—and I doubt I'd be satisfied if he did because I dislike him as much as I do. I would much rather have had the original G'raha, awakened from the tower with no memory of the events on the First and in the future, than whatever he currently is.

I don't feel like the "wilfully abandoning Lyna" thing is as dramatic as you're making out. To some extent, yes he was planning on leaving his life as the Exarch to return to the Source. But if it weren't for Elidibus forcing things, it would have been a far calmer, measured farewell – and in any case it seems to come back to him willingly risking his own life to make sure the process is safe for the others to use.

I do agree that I would have preferred to see the Exarch truly die, and young G'raha kept as a separate person, and I do really dislike that the Exarch seems to have overwritten him.

Though, given it's happened and we have to go with it, my very headcanony take to justify it all is that they didn't quite merge but are sort of simultaneously in control of the same body, whether aware of it or not, and most of the time they just think the same way but if they disagree then whoever feels stronger about a thing ends up acting on it.

I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well. I need to fanfic this sometime. Still, it works enough for me.

his only wish was for us to carry his crystal with us on our adventures so that we'd always have him close, but of course we had to fuse his soul with source graha's

I'm not sure where you're getting that impression from. It was already established as the plan that the Exarch would be a "test case" for the soul vessel because he had a body back in the Source so the transfer process could be tested. (Again overlooking the fact that the soul in that body might be regarded as a separate person with a choice in the matter, but I think the whole thing just shows that the writer(s) didn't see it as an issue.)

Of course we kind of stuffed up the test case thing by waking the other Scions up first, but it was still explicitly the intent.