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    Why are Vitality potions still a thing?

    I can't for the life of me figure out the use. You get a few seconds extra HP WITHOUT HEALING UP THE ADJUSTMENT so it is useless in every bit of content right off the bat. If it healed you up the dif in HP, I could see it be somewhat useful for surviving a TB maybe but oh my gods, what a waste of resources of having a new 'better' version of something that will never be used each expansion.

    And no, it being used as a healing item is no reasonable arguement for allowing it to exist the way it currently is. Have the potion do something else than (de)buff HP or remove it all together.
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    Your answer is here, courtesy of the search string "ffxiv when should I use a vitality potion": https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Vitality

    It's historical, and it can't be removed because Alchemists have to make one for a job quest and wouldn't have much of anything to make if one removed all of the no-longer-required potions in game.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    I have heard of them being used in savage coils. There are situations they could be used to allow the party to survive a mechanic the way tanks do.
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    To me it just seems like it would be a colossal waste of time/resources to go through the entire game to remove all of the potions - and it might impact things like quests that utilize them.
    If it's not being used, the simplest thing to do is to just let it exist and not be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    wouldn't have much of anything to make if one removed all of the no-longer-required potions in game.
    They could...add more potions. And unlock the cooldowns on some of them to create a more robust consumable market. But yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feron View Post
    They could...add more potions. And unlock the cooldowns on some of them to create a more robust consumable market. But yeah.
    Agreed. Potions could really use some attention from the devs to make them more useful in the game. In fact, alchemy as a whole, needs to be brought up to the usefulness of the other disciples of the hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotaname1 View Post
    I can't for the life of me figure out the use. You get a few seconds extra HP WITHOUT HEALING UP THE ADJUSTMENT so it is useless in every bit of content right off the bat. If it healed you up the dif in HP, I could see it be somewhat useful for surviving a TB maybe but oh my gods, what a waste of resources of having a new 'better' version of something that will never be used each expansion.

    And no, it being used as a healing item is no reasonable arguement for allowing it to exist the way it currently is. Have the potion do something else than (de)buff HP or remove it all together.
    I'd say you're pretty on the money for it's uses. I could see an OT popping one with regen assistance in prep for an upcoming TB in order to save Invulns for emergency situations and making prog in new content. But outside of that; generally speaking, fairly useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Agreed. Potions could really use some attention from the devs to make them more useful in the game. In fact, alchemy as a whole, needs to be brought up to the usefulness of the other disciples of the hand.
    Alchemy is arguably the most important DoH, if not for the potions, because a LOT of intermediate materials are ALC mats.

    I would love a more robust consumables market though. High end food and potions sell but no one bothers with less because non-raiders don't want to add a 15 second buff to their rotations or nab a food that doesn't visibly affect anything.

    Obviously this is a pipe dream but lost action style buffs that do something visible rather than passive and statistical would be rad. Like would it break the game to get a second sprint via potion? Or heck, hour long town runspeed buff?
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    Last edited by dezzmont; 08-08-2021 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotaname1 View Post
    I can't for the life of me figure out the use. You get a few seconds extra HP WITHOUT HEALING UP THE ADJUSTMENT so it is useless in every bit of content right off the bat. If it healed you up the dif in HP, I could see it be somewhat useful for surviving a TB maybe but oh my gods, what a waste of resources of having a new 'better' version of something that will never be used each expansion.

    And no, it being used as a healing item is no reasonable arguement for allowing it to exist the way it currently is. Have the potion do something else than (de)buff HP or remove it all together.
    they work pretty well in low lvl content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    I'd say you're pretty on the money for it's uses. I could see an OT popping one with regen assistance in prep for an upcoming TB in order to save Invulns for emergency situations and making prog in new content. But outside of that; generally speaking, fairly useless.
    With all the defensives that tanks have readily available nowadays you don't really run into this situation even during savage prog.
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