Need help / advice for this tank roulette situation

[Goji1639]

Incredible, absolutely mind boggling. In all my years of playing this game, I have never met anyone even half as delusional as you are. Arguing against the usage of essences using hilariously faulty "math" and being over the top condescending towards anyone that corrected you, defending "you pull it you tank it" mentality when a single tank aoe is more than enough to get an enemy's attention, and supporting single pulling tanks in endgame dungeons when they could just use trusts instead of wasting other players time. All while morally grandstanding and making sweeping generalizations about an entire forum at that.

I can only thank my lucky stars that I'll never end up in a party with you, because you are the very epitome of everything I aspire not to be.

Hmm, let's see... Not responding to what I actually said... Bringing up and completely misrepresenting old and irrelevant discussions... Acting offended and outraged to the point where I can only imagine you're typing through an ocean of tears...

If a tank wants to single pull in an 80 dungeon and the rest of the group is fine with it then there's nothing you can do about it, no matter how big a tantrum you throw. So, keep to the forums where there's a handful of other people that will affirm your petty nonsense. I'd be more than fine with never having to deal with you in-game as well.

[LittleImp]

Incredible, absolutely mind boggling. In all my years of playing this game, I have never met anyone even half as delusional as you are. Arguing against the usage of essences using hilariously faulty "math" and being over the top condescending towards anyone that corrected you, defending "you pull it you tank it" mentality when a single tank aoe is more than enough to get an enemy's attention, and supporting single pulling tanks in endgame dungeons when they could just use trusts instead of wasting other players time. All while morally grandstanding and making sweeping generalizations about an entire forum at that.

I can only thank my lucky stars that I'll never end up in a party with you, because you are the very epitome of everything I aspire not to be.

Personally I really enjoy his presence on the forums; He's like a bellwether that instantly indicates whatever the wrong side of any argument is, because you can be damn sure he'll be there arguing it.

He'll roll up in your thread and say things like:

Also, always giving peoples poor behavior the benefit of the doubt doesn't help anyone.

While demanding in 10 other threads that he should be given the benefit of the doubt for his own extremely poor behavior.

[Goji1639]

Personally I really enjoy his presence on the forums; He's like a bellwether that instantly indicates whatever the wrong side of any argument is, because you can be damn sure he'll be there arguing it.

He'll roll up in your thread and say things like:

While demanding in 10 other threads that he should be given the benefit of the doubt for his own extremely poor behavior.

Eh, I've never asked for the benefit of the doubt on anything here. I don't really care how you feel about my stances.

Honestly, forum communities are usually where most of a games belligerent tryhards gather. It's always a little entertaining, but in this game it's on another level. To elaborate; tryhards in less casual games usually have some relevant threads to pull. They can come up with at least semi-coherent rationale behind how "casual" mindsets ruin the game, because content actually isn't getting cleared.

In FFXIV, however... It's the horrors of a single pulling tanks, a no DPS healer or a no AOE DPS making the run take an extra 5-7 minutes. You people are a joke, and I'll randomly hang out here until it stops being funny.

[Rinhi]

that's sad

[Goji1639]

that's sad

Does single pulling upset you? Tell me all about it.

[tdb]

So not saying hi is being a jerk? Yes he went on to pull the second group because it should be common knowledge and expected that a tank pulls more than one group. The point is in the literal last dungeon of the expansion, people shouldn’t have to ask to do big pulls, it should be the norm.

I didn't think it was worth mentioning that I tabbed out while I waited for everyone to accept the queue pop and when I tabbed back in the tank was already moving forward so my immediate action was to sprint and catch up. That said, sometimes I greet, sometimes I don't. I typically don't say anything in a group unless I see something in somebody's search info that's interesting, I like their glam, etc. - things of that nature. I'm kind of jaded to the whole greeting random people I'll likely never see again thing. It's reflexive to most people and it means nothing to them so I don't put much stock in somebody going "o/" or "meowdy" making them a nicer person than me.

The lack of a greeting is beside the point. I only mentioned it to highlight the apparent fact that you made no effort to communicate your wishes to the group before trying to force them to play your way. If pulling the second group occurred by accident in the chaos of starting the dungeon, then fair enough, it happens. But don't you think you could have tried to kindly coax the tank to try big pulls rather than berate them for being bad? Yes, I know big pulls are the norm and the dungeons are designed that way, but sometimes you encounter people who have managed to lead sheltered lives up until now. What do you stand to lose by at least trying to get along with others?

[Rinhi]

Does single pulling upset you? Tell me all about it.

no, why would it? I'll just adjust and finish the dungeon and take a bit longer
it's odd that you think people must be upset about something if they criticize it, though, like almost as if you don't understand that those things are separate from each other

The lack of a greeting is beside the point. I only mentioned it to highlight the apparent fact that you made no effort to communicate your wishes to the group before trying to force them to play your way. If pulling the second group occurred by accident in the chaos of starting the dungeon, then fair enough, it happens. But don't you think you could have tried to kindly coax the tank to try big pulls rather than berate them for being bad? Yes, I know big pulls are the norm and the dungeons are designed that way, but sometimes you encounter people who have managed to lead sheltered lives up until now. What do you stand to lose by at least trying to get along with others?

it's level 80 content with 500 minimum ilvl, you have to actively try to get killed by mobs as a tank
why must those with "a sheltered life" be sheltered further by other people? why must everyone bow to their whims because otherwise you'll be seen as a toxic elitist by the virtue signallers?

[Goji1639]

no, why would it? I'll just adjust and finish the dungeon and take a bit longer
it's odd that you think people must be upset about something if they criticize it, though, like almost as if you don't understand that those things are separate from each other

Hmm, that's not a hilariously tryhard take at all.

Where did BaconBits and that other guy go? They were bringing the fun.

[tdb]

it's level 80 content with 500 minimum ilvl, you have to actively try to get killed by mobs as a tank
why must those with "a sheltered life" be sheltered further by other people? why must everyone bow to their whims because otherwise you'll be seen as a toxic elitist by the virtue signallers?

Did I say everyone should bow to their whims? Whatever the way they've managed to avoid doing big pulls so far, I don't think being rude about it is going to convince them otherwise. Is it really so unthinkable to actually discuss with people and at least trying to come to an agreement before forcing your own playstyle on others? And yes, I realize this goes both ways. A tank wishing to single pull could ask the others if they're okay with it. But if they don't and just stop at the first group, you can be the bigger person and politely inform them that that isn't the norm here and would they please at least try to do big pulls.

[Nethereal]

Ah yes the classics.

Down with the single pull tanks.

Level 80 isn't new.