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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    This is what you're asking for when you ask for instanced housing in FFXIV. Just so you know.
    No it's not, if someone wants a new system they want a new system. Of course FFXIV can say "impossibru" but that doesn't mean they asked for something else.

    There are plenty of examples of instanced housing where you don't have all the issues you listed, people are saying "figure it out". Clearly what people are asking is not what you said, and I think it a bit off putting and perhaps a fallacy to suggest that's what people are asking for when they're clearly not. You might say "this is what is likely to happen given current system limitations" but /obviously/ people are saying "fix the limitations, make it work". They are NOT asking for what you said, to say that is incorrect- to say they might get what you said .. well that's entirely possible. There are many clear examples of the system working perfectly well, it's not some figment of an imagination on what an instanced housing system would look like as we've many examples and when reading people's posts it's clear what they're looking for. There are no smoke and mirrors, if someone had a pikachu face "ooops" because they did what you suggested and were shocked people were upset it's because they weren't paying attention (or of course determine what players want impossible and so they do a compromise, but players are allowed to say "I don't want the comprise, I want this, this is what I said, this is what I want"... and of course dev players may say "I'm not doing that" lol).

    Alternatively to counter your point on timers and such, we've plenty of instanced spaces to the player that you CAN queue for duty and there is not a timer (like the garrison or inns, or the current internals of houses, naturally most of those spaces don't get customized- but example where such a system exists in the game that doesn't require what you said people are asking for when they clearly didn't).

    Naturally if the company says can't be done it makes it more of a pipe dream, but we've numerous items that couldn't be done at one point but were later do-able (or sometimes it might be a strong notice into the future). As personally I've limited hope for the current game will change, I think the Sanctuary is meant to be a way to alleviate some of the desires for players, and so I mostly comment as a future "next mmo, don't use this exact system- it's not great". I comment for the idea of 5-10 years in the future in another world, to not see this system done as it was done.

    As for instanced part- you'd have an instanced internal (house), external would be ideal (so let's say garden space), but a ward user would still have a physical address. Such a concept can be seen in beautiful action in the movie Howel's Moving Castle, or less pretty but basically the same via the flower girl quest in FFXI (for your mog room). Some people's idea was phasing where your house is represented in the physical space with other houses loaded in the other nodes. Phasing can be both cool and painful though, can see WoW where it worked well and not so well. There are multiple ways to go about it. Of course you can keep the same system that requires people to settle, lack of creativity, etc, but.. ew? Obviously imo, but in general the system gets a "ew" / 10 (with the objects themselves generally being pretty cool, some of the people who go dozen hour plus on designs have shown real creativity).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-06-2021 at 03:56 AM.