Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
Except we're not teaching them mechanics.
We're trying to go against the conditioning they've received from day 1 since starting the game that it doesn't matter what they do as long as they're pressing buttons while at the same time trying to get them to do mechanics.
This is what we're dealing with: If not worse

With that said Is there really such a need for such vitriol against mentors? Are you even a mentor? Some people just aren't ready for extreme and it has nothing to do with mentors.
I joined a 40 minutes in progress Leviathan EX just yesterday and we ran out the clock.
Not even 20% echo can help those people.
Sure you can clear most of them save Ramuh, The Great Hunt Ex(sometimes), and Sephirot but why are people so upset that some people just A. Aren't worth helping, B. Don't want help, or C. Aren't ready for the help being offered?

These people have never been challenged at all leading up the time they put themselves into the queue, they have next to no raid awareness, and don't even understand how to dps an add that appears infront of them unless specifically told and reminded to do so. If left to their own devices they would hit Ifrit while he was invincible until they wiped multiple times.

You can't help people who don't want to be helped, it goes both ways.
Going ignore the clip as it's been discussed to death already and is not indictictive of actual spouts.. but people who make drama to get views..

Yes there is a need to call out bad mentors.. if your only there for the mount and the burger King crown then your not ment to be a mentor.. if you don't have the time to teach the players to fail an instance then you shouldn't be a mentor.. mentor are people too.. they can fail an fight but the very least they should do is stay and try to clear with the people who queued for the duty..

You obviously didn't read the entire thread I have combat mentored but currently don't have the comends..

Also see my above comment about how a mentor leaving a duty is actually hurting the 6-7 other players who chose to be there.. because 99% of the time you only get 1 or 2 mentors to help fill the fight