Petition: Remove EX Trials from Mentor Roulette

[Godzillaxpowerrangers]

Is this another crafting mentor complaining about extreme content they never cleared themselves when it was relevant, like brute forced it and now complain having to do it sync'd?

I've had success many times with Ultima Ex, Ramuh Ex, Sophia Ex...to name a few usually going as tank or healer helps a bit since the carry can be real with either. If asmon can do it, so can you.

I can say the person who posted this has done EXs when they were new.

[Tonkra]

We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it

I disagree with you completely.

If they get rid of that in mentor roulette it will make it more impossible for new players to do the ex primal runs.
Because no one would ever queue up for it anymore.

Whats your problem dude? Maybe then you arent meant to be a mentor.

[Justuas]

I disagree with you completely.

If they get rid of that in mentor roulette it will make it more impossible for new players to do the ex primal runs.
Because no one would ever queue up for it anymore.

Whats your problem dude? Maybe then you arent meant to be a mentor.

Party finder exists.

[Tonkra]

Party finder exists.

Yes, waiting for hours, since no old player wants to do that old content for free.
And you also could say it otherwise.

There is enough roulette content that you can do that grants you bonus stuff for selfish purposes.

If you as a mentor complain about "mentoring" than you maybe also better should question yourself if you have the unselfish mental spirit that a true mentor should have.
Mentoring isnt there for granting you selfish bonus stuff in the shortest/most efficient time as possible.

Thats not what mentoring is about. Its about the unselfish support of other new players in any regards.
Its not about efficiency and its not about time. Like in an NGO.


If you dont feel it - mentoring is maybe not for you. ("Party finder exists" tells me you probably don't)

[Justuas]

Yes, waiting for hours, since no old player wants to do that old content for free.
And you also could say it otherwise.

There is enough roulette content that you can do that grants you bonus stuff for selfish purposes.

If you as a mentor complain about "mentoring" than you maybe also better should question yourself if you have the unselfish mental spirit that a true mentor should have.
Mentoring isnt there for granting you selfish bonus stuff in the shortest/most efficient time as possible.

Thats not what mentoring is about. Its about the unselfish support of other new players in any regards.
Its not about efficiency and its not about time. Like in an NGO.


If you dont feel it - mentoring is maybe not for you. ("Party finder exists" tells me you probably don't)

I can't even be a mentor yet. You're barking up the wrong tree.

[ZedxKayn]

Yes, waiting for hours, since no old player wants to do that old content for free.
And you also could say it otherwise.

There is enough roulette content that you can do that grants you bonus stuff for selfish purposes.

If you as a mentor complain about "mentoring" than you maybe also better should question yourself if you have the unselfish mental spirit that a true mentor should have.
Mentoring isnt there for granting you selfish bonus stuff in the shortest/most efficient time as possible.

Thats not what mentoring is about. Its about the unselfish support of other new players in any regards.
Its not about efficiency and its not about time. Like in an NGO.


If you dont feel it - mentoring is maybe not for you. ("Party finder exists" tells me you probably don't)

Telling sprouts to use PF and/or find a community catered to their needs is mentoring. That's how harder or unpopular content is done in NA and EU.
Mentors are here to help and teach how they see fit, not bend over backwards to carry the chainpulling GLD or the curebot who never opens the chat in Ramuh EX.

[Tonkra]

Telling sprouts to use PF and/or find a community catered to their needs is mentoring. That's how harder or unpopular content is done in NA and EU.
Mentors are here to help and teach how they see fit, not bend over backwards to carry the chainpulling GLD or the curebot who never opens the chat in Ramuh EX.

with that argumentation we could get rid of Mentor roulette all-over.
"There is duty finder you know".

Maybe thats the best decision then.

Since seemingly so called "mentors" want to get some selfish bonus out of it - the most easy and efficient way.

[Vahlnir]

Telling sprouts to use PF and/or find a community catered to their needs is mentoring. That's how harder or unpopular content is done in NA and EU.
Mentors are here to help and teach how they see fit, not bend over backwards to carry the chainpulling GLD or the curebot who never opens the chat in Ramuh EX.

Considering that the PF is indeed used to recruit for Extremes the most at least on the NA side of things (no idea what it's like elsewhere)...yeah, it is wonderful advice. Whatever the conditions (synced, unsynced, min item level, etc) the groups will usually fill if one is patient enough. Some things will be slower to fill than others, but it beats wasting their time and the time of 7 other people by trying to queue for these things. In the time it takes to queue up, given the wait time could be at LEAST an hour...they could have partially or completely filled their PF group and have been inside learning already.

[Novae]

Remove Astrope. Problem solved.

[ForctyusGold]

damn, again. well im with this. remove them. thing is they can add second mentor roulette for only exs. it would fill with a pro people who are saying how toxic mentors are. and no, its really not about mount or anything. when you dont know what to do, you dont want to do regular roulettes, you will pick mentor roulette to help people with queue , not to enter ex trial where sometimes you get people they dont know what to do / can be also you who dont exacly dont know whole fight.
tho i always love how no mentor enter these threads giving their tip and ideas how mentor system is bad