Petition: Remove EX Trials from Mentor Roulette

[MistakeNot]

We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it

Mentors aren't supposed to only help with the basics of the game. Mentors are supposed to help other players when and if they are able to, with no content specifically excluded.

EX Trials being, as you say, the entry point to the harder parts of the game, are very much in need of people willing to teach new players how to beat them - which pretty much describes what mentors should be.

[OranKells]

Maybe they should just remove mentors

[Lunalepsy]

We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it

Good luck with that!

[Nethereal]

Msq in mentor roulette must go!

[Kolsykol]

Msq in mentor roulette must go!

Can we delete mentor while we're at it?

Mentors are here to help and teach how they see fit.

Problem is when how they see it fit is wrong so frequently.
It's kind of a meme for good reason tbh.

It hurts my soul to see people blurt out random advice when they clearly don't know just for the sake of giving advice.
Bad advice = worse than no advice at all.
Tbh I don't think that people can be trusted with '' teaching how they see fit ''.

[LegendWait]

A lot of extremes can be cleared with basic instructions if you make the effort to give them.

[KageTokage]

A lot of extremes can be cleared with basic instructions if you make the effort to give them.

I've only had much luck with finishing Ultima Weapon, Garuda, Ravana, and Bismark in mostly sprout groups as being early extremes they get mostly cheesed by the bloated item levels.

Though even Garuda frequently ends up being a wash due to the tanks not seeming to grasp the basic instruction that the adds need to be tanked on opposite sides of the arena.

[CKNovel]

A lot of extremes can be cleared with basic instructions if you make the effort to give them.

The only EX I couldn't clear with sprouts is Ramuh. Never passed the add phase.
I got it multiple times but the concept of debuff, stack with chaos and don't pile multiple aoe is difficult.

There's only 1 hour to the timer and a lot of tanks are ninja puller that expects the trial to go as smoothly as normal difficulty.

[technole]

Is this another crafting mentor complaining about extreme content they never cleared themselves when it was relevant, like brute forced it and now complain having to do it sync'd?

I've had success many times with Ultima Ex, Ramuh Ex, Sophia Ex...to name a few usually going as tank or healer helps a bit since the carry can be real with either. If asmon can do it, so can you.

[KageTokage]

Is this another crafting mentor complaining about extreme content they never cleared themselves when it was relevant, like brute forced it and now complain having to do it sync'd?

I've had success many times with Ultima Ex, Ramuh Ex, Sophia Ex...to name a few usually going as tank or healer helps a bit since the carry can be real with either. If asmon can do it, so can you.

Asmongold's runs tend to be filled entirely with people who are way, way above the average skill level you're likely to encounter when getting shoved into extremes via mentor roulette...so not really a fair comparison.

It's easier to do a min ilvl extreme with people who actually know what they're doing vs. bloated ilvls with people who scarcely know how to play their jobs.

I generally only have success with the harder extremes if the run is mostly mentors and all of the tanks and healers are included.