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  1. #41
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Sevro Barca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    griefing the tank by... pulling mobs?
    Yes.

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  2. #42
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    Another one is casters/range not using lb during pulls. Also when someone does not drag the mob to the tank.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageCipher View Post
    I'll start it off with (and this is pure protip for dps starting). Don't run ahead of the tank, even if you've done the dungeon plenty of times before...you will die, no one will heal you, and the tank is not going to follow you.
    My biggest pet peeve is people thinking tanks can be the only one to pull mobs.
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  4. #44
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    My biggest pet peeve is people thinking tanks can be the only one to pull mobs.
    Agree.

    The idea of letting tank pull first in dungeons comes from other games. Where if you pull before the tank, the tank will have a really hard time getting aggro/enmity lead again. This is not the case in FFXIV.
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  5. #45
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    Alxyzntlct's Avatar
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    Alyx'ender Lutece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    My biggest pet peeve is people thinking tanks can be the only one to pull mobs.
    I'm curious, why?

    And do you mean as a general standard, or do you take the time to explain in chat to let folks know that you're going to actively pull mobs for the tank?
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  6. #46
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    We're letting the DPS die for being foolish. If I'm the healer, I'm not healing you if you do it. If I'm the tank, I'm letting you die for it. If you wanted to control the flow of the dungeon, you should have come in on a tank.
    And I'll be the first to throw up a Vote Dismal for doing so as you've made the run more difficult for no reason beyond your ego being bruised. Either you've let the whole party die if the healer happens to be who you refuse to take mobs off of or the run small to a crawl since the healer is either balancing heals between two targets or we're down a DPS. Both scenarios could be easily avoided if you simply AoE.

    This mindset is little more than petty toxic nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alxyzntlct View Post
    I'm curious, why?

    And do you mean as a general standard, or do you take the time to explain in chat to let folks know that you're going to actively pull mobs for the tank?
    Because it simply doesn't matter. Dungeon mobs do paltry damage. Who cares if it's the tank pulling or if the DPS get a little ahead and take an auto or two that doesn't even dent 10% of their HP pool? In fact, I welcome DPS pulling for me on Warrior because I have to put up Storm's Eye first. So then running ahead means less of a delay for me as they're bringing the friends back.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 08-01-2021 at 03:56 PM.
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  7. #47
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    Faux Ears
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    My biggest pet peeve is people thinking tanks can be the only one to pull mobs.
    My biggest pet peeve as a tank is having someone else pull mobs for me.

    Yes yes, I know the whole argument, and most people will say I'm in the wrong for feeling that way... and you know, I can't blame them.

    I still just can't help but be extremely annoyed when it happens.
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  8. #48
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    I'm exceedingly antisocial and love the squad and trust features. I do my roulettes as DPS if possible, so all I have to do is worry about myself.
    If I'm a healer, and the tank sprints away and out of range, well I'm sure they can survive until I arrive.
    I really don't want to tank, but if I did, I'd switch off my enmity stance the second someone else pulls, or drags me into a pack of mobs.

    Thankfully, all these really weird "gogogo" behaviour patterns aren't that common on the Japanese data centres, so I don't have to deal with it.
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  9. #49
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Spriggan
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    I'm exceedingly antisocial and love the squad and trust features. I do my roulettes as DPS if possible, so all I have to do is worry about myself.
    If I'm a healer, and the tank sprints away and out of range, well I'm sure they can survive until I arrive.
    I really don't want to tank, but if I did, I'd switch off my enmity stance the second someone else pulls, or drags me into a pack of mobs.

    Thankfully, all these really weird "gogogo" behaviour patterns aren't that common on the Japanese data centres, so I don't have to deal with it.
    I don't understand the "gogogogo" mentality either.
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  10. #50
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I don't understand the "gogogogo" mentality either.
    Mathematically speaking, it is the best way to get the most out of your buffs and mitigation. Especially jobs that need to keep attacking to keep their gauge. The less amount of downtime between pulls the better they preform.
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