Multi-tank busters should apply to the main tank in an alliance instead of a DPS

[Neihel]

if a tank in an alliance dies the buster should apply a 2nd time to whoever is MT, because they have the utility to survive a 2nd buster, it's been horrible playing the nier raids as a DPS and getting the buster when your party's tank dies

as a dps you have no way to counter the buster and it's not your fault if your party's tank dies

[Nyarlha]

If you die it's the fault of the other tanks that did not use tank stances to stay second on the enmity list, which is supposed to be their job.

Enmity is easy enough as it is, let's not make it even more dumb.

[Neihel]

If you die it's the fault of the other tanks that did not use tank stances to stay second on the enmity list, which is supposed to be their job.

Enmity is easy enough as it is, let's not make it even more dumb.

but sometimes a tank dies and I feel it should be the responsability of the other tanks to use their CDs to mitigate a double damage buster if anything it doesn't dumb down the experience but makes CD management even more important for tanks in alliance raids and it will make invulns more important to save incase a tank on another party dies

keeping it as it is means now means the other tanks don't have to take any responsability and won't acknowledge that they are getting members killed

[Naoki34]

but sometimes a tank dies and I feel it should be the responsability of the other tanks to use their CDs to mitigate a double damage buster if anything it doesn't dumb down the experience but makes CD management even more important for tanks in alliance raids and it will make invulns more important to save incase a tank on another party dies

keeping it as it is means now means the other tanks don't have to take any responsability and won't acknowledge that they are getting members killed

Because you think it's better to make the game even more casual?

For the number of times I have tanked in alliance raid, I take almost no damage even with tank buster, as long as you know how to anticipate and the healers are not sleeping, with a little bit of stuff, even with the two dead healers, you can still hold on for a good while, until the next tank buster, if the healers of the other groups are not sleeping too.

Well timed, a defensive tank CD + mitigation that all healers have, you don't take more than 20% of your Max HP.
Also, there are no mechanics to switch between tanks in Raid Alliance. So don't try to make it even easier.

The raid alliance is relatively easy content. Stop trying to change the game, but try to progress, learn to play...

[ArianeEwah]

So, you want the MT to die to 2 tank busters at once, instead of the best dps in your party, so that the boss runs amok amoung the alliance or the last tank alive after a tank buster? No, thx!

If one or more tank(s) die it may or may not be their fault, and you may or may not pay for that. FF14 is still a MMO, yus a team game. Take one for the team, blame the one(s) who are at fault, and that's that.

If you die it's the fault of the other tanks that did not use tank stances to stay second on the enmity list, which is supposed to be their job.

In alliance raids, tanks don't need to be 1st in their party list, except for the MT.

Tank busters are targeted at TANKs - no matter what - first, and then next in aggro list, if there is no tank.

[Nyarlha]

Tank busters are targeted at TANKs - no matter what - first, and then next in aggro list, if there is no tank.

Point is, the second in the enmity list should be a tank.

[Mavrias]

Point is, the second in the enmity list should be a tank.

Thats great and all, but its entirely irrelevant to what OP is talking about.

In the Nier raids, multi hit tank busters apply to all three tanks regardless of where they are on the aggro list. If Alliance A's tank is dead or DC'd, even if Alliance B and C are first and second respectively on the aggro list, the top DPS in Alliance A is going to take the third tank buster regardless.

[Neihel]

So, you want the MT to die to 2 tank busters at once, instead of the best dps in your party, so that the boss runs amok amoung the alliance or the last tank alive after a tank buster? No, thx!

If one or more tank(s) die it may or may not be their fault, and you may or may not pay for that. FF14 is still a MMO, yus a team game. Take one for the team, blame the one(s) who are at fault, and that's that.

Tanks have the utility to survive a million tank busters worth of damage with their invuln, a good tank will not die in this scenario

In alliance raids, tanks don't need to be 1st in their party list

that is false information, ALL 3 tanks need to have their stance active after the tanks are done with their opener
how are you a lvl 80 warrior main and not know this?

[ArianeEwah]

Tanks have the utility to survive a million tank busters worth of damage with their invuln, a good tank will not die in this scenario

that is false information, ALL 3 tanks need to have their stance active after the tanks are done with their opener
how are you a lvl 80 warrior main and not know this?

Oh, excuse me, didn't know tanks have 24/7 invuls in every scenario to take a million tank busters anytime... *facepalm*

And no, the buster in allaince raids are programmed to target tanks first! Aggro doesn't matter in this case! How can you breathe and not know this? (Seriously, stop insulting others if you didn't check your "facts")

[Neihel]

Oh, excuse me, didn't know tanks have 24/7 invuls in every scenario to take a million tank busters anytime... *facepalm*

And no, the buster in allaince raids are programmed to target tanks first! Aggro doesn't matter in this case! How can you breathe and not know this? (Seriously, stop insulting others if you didn't check your "facts")

They just need one invuln to survive a million tankbusters worth of damage at once, you don't need the invulns active 24/7

and the devs can program the fights to split the buster from the dead tank to the other 2 tanks if they wanted to that's what the thread is suggesting