[Off-topic] WoW discussion - What should I do?

[Xathyr]

Hello there!

And before saying anything else i have to apologize, i understand that what I'm about to say is very personal stuff non-related with a FF forums, so my post does not only not belong here but it's also likely to be uninteresting for most of you, hope you guys could forgive me but i really needed to talk about this with someone, since my wow subscription is cancelled and i don't know where else could i post this.

The thing is, I'm rather depressed right now, I'm someone who has been playing wow over the past 13 years with a couple of breaks in between when i got tired, had nothing else to do in-game or simply wanted to play other stuff, so far, managed to meet many different people, some remained as close friends others just as some cool people that happened to be there when i most enjoyed the game, i would be lying if i said that it wasn't because of the people that i met that my interest for wow was there even when i didn't really like playing the game anymore the social environment was a strong appeal, but since nothing last forever those people eventually grew up, had better things to do with their life, some responsibilities or they simply got bored of the game and quit.

People quitting the game wasn't really a problem for me since i was constantly meeting new players due to my interest in PvP but specially Arenas, but with the release of BFA and i could say way earlier before that, meeting new players and socializing with them became something rather hard, since people wasn't really forced to interact with other players for neither an elite quest, nor a dungeon, nor a raid, nor a bg, nor even arenas; the social aspect of the game became to fade and now unless you were part of a guild meeting other players with a talkative mood was a true challenge.

That made me wish i could travel back in time, and wow classic kinda made this a reality, and although i did not like the vanilla experience that much since my main interest on the game remained on arenas, it was still nice to have that social aspect back and meeting other players on a old school fashion.

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[Xathyr]

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So you guys can guess how hyped i was when Blizzard announced TBC classic, not only was that the first expansion i played but also was for me the best PvP experience i had (or at least i still remember it like that) with all the social features the game still had before the Dungeon Finder bullshit appeared.

And then, for whatever reason Blizzard decided to fuck it up and bring the microtransactions back, level boosts, bots, hacks and all that lovely stuff.

My heart broke to the point were even tho i had not that much interest in FF14 I still wanted to give it a try since many people started playing it as well, and ho boi, I'm really enjoying the game, maybe i was just lucky but I've never met a more wholesome community in any online game on my whole life, since day 1 people have been nothing but helpful, many people has given their time to explain bosses mechanics and no one got mad if someone messed up, on the contrary they were rather cheerful, for no reason other than me being a new player some other players have given me many gifts in the form of minions or some other items.

And not to mention the feeling of meeting a bard in Limsa Lominsa playing a theme that you recognize and that alone becoming the reason for a long chat and a new friend

But even with all that positivity I still miss wow, pvp in FF14 lacks not only in deepness but also in complexity, is very straightforward and when i compare it to wow arenas it really shows that this game wasn't really made for it.

Which brings me to me making this post, I really want to play TBC again, but i refuse to support Blizzard anymore, specially after what has recently happened, i have no words to describe what this company is other than saying that is being managed by a bunch of scumbags who have turned it in probably the worst videogame company.

I've also considered starting anew on a private server, but the reason why i have never done it before is because an mmo is something about time investment and progression, and i don't like the idea of expending 1 or 2 years of my life on a character when i have no certainty that he's not gonna disappear one day either because they decide to reset the server or it closes, i truly don't know how they operate or do things.

So, if anyone has managed to read me up until here, what would be your advice? I'm really opened to any suggestions or comments that you may have and i will really appreciate them.

With not much else to say, thanks for reading me

[grinkdaboy]

you can remember all of the good times you had but the goal should not be to relive or recreate memories but to go forth and create new ones

[A_moth_called_rose]

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So you guys can guess how hyped i was when Blizzard announced TBC classic, not only was that the first expansion i played but also was for me the best PvP experience i had (or at least i still remember it like that) with all the social features the game still had before the Dungeon Finder bullshit appeared.

And then, for whatever reason Blizzard decided to fuck it up and bring the microtransactions back, level boosts, bots, hacks and all that lovely stuff.

My heart broke to the point were even tho i had not that much interest in FF14 I still wanted to give it a try since many people started playing it as well, and ho boi, I'm really enjoying the game, maybe i was just lucky but I've never met a more wholesome community in any online game on my whole life, since day 1 people have been nothing but helpful, many people has given their time to explain bosses mechanics and no one got mad if someone messed up, on the contrary they were rather cheerful, for no reason other than me being a new player some other players have given me many gifts in the form of minions or some other items.

And not to mention the feeling of meeting a bard in Limsa Lominsa playing a theme that you recognize and that alone becoming the reason for a long chat and a new friend

But even with all that positivity I still miss wow, pvp in FF14 lacks not only in deepness but also in complexity, is very straightforward and when i compare it to wow arenas it really shows that this game wasn't really made for it.

Which brings me to me making this post, I really want to play TBC again, but i refuse to support Blizzard anymore, specially after what has recently happened, i have no words to describe what this company is other than saying that is being managed by a bunch of scumbags who have turned it in probably the worst videogame company.

I've also considered starting anew on a private server, but the reason why i have never done it before is because an mmo is something about time investment and progression, and i don't like the idea of expending 1 or 2 years of my life on a character when i have no certainty that he's not gonna disappear one day either because they decide to reset the server or it closes, i truly don't know how they operate or do things.

So, if anyone has managed to read me up until here, what would be your advice? I'm really opened to any suggestions or comments that you may have and i will really appreciate them.

With not much else to say, thanks for reading me

If PvP is a big thing for you, you might want to consider New World when it comes out. A lot of ex-wow players have been singing it's praises from a pvp standpoint and a forced necessity to group and socialize for mutual survival and benefit.

[StriderShinryu]

Since PvP is important to you, I would actually suggest looking for PvP in a place where you're going to be satisfied by it. If you're happy with FF14 other than the PvP then continue playing FF14 but find a separate PvP game that you will enjoy as many non-MMOs PvP dedicated games have better PvP than any MMO does anyway.

And much respect for deciding to not support Blizzard anymore despite having a clear emotional attachment to one of their games.

[ItMe]

I'd recommend not hoping right from one game to another.
Take a break, decompress a bit, and then reassess.
Otherwise you might find yourself unhappy and with a game that just picked you up on the rebound, but now you're established and it's hard to get away from that one too.

[kaynide]

Well, first, welcome to FFXIV! I hope you enjoy your time here.

For actual PvP play, FFXIV might not scratch that itch very well- Guild Wars 2 does a better job of that in an MMO setting and is pretty fun/challenging over all.

Both FFXIV and Guild Wars 2 are pretty good about on/off play, in that you can play them as much as you want and take a break whenever. It will not take long to get back to functional endgame status in either..so there's no feeling of being FORCED to play or you'll get left behind.


I'd say give them both a try; they both have pretty decent free trials and you can settle into whichever you like best.

[TaleraRistain]

I'd echo others here. If PvP is your bliss, you can't support the company that does PvP the way you like, and your current game isn't scratching that itch, try to find a game with PvP the way you like it. That doesn't mean you can't keep playing XIV for the aspects of it that you enjoy. XIV, outside of the mandatory MSQ that applies to everyone, is designed so players can engage with what they like, ignore what they don't, take a break if necessary, and not have to worry about falling behind and not being able to catch up. So it works very well to play other games while enjoying the parts of XIV that one likes.

[Lexis]

I'm not much of a PvPer myself so I can't speak for that aspect of the game, be it in WoW or FFXIV, but as a fellow long-time WoW player who reluctantly quit TBCC despite still enjoying the game, I can relate with your plight on an emotional level.

I started my journey with Blizzard with Starcraft 1 and played WoW since the days of old, the Vanilla Era. The recent developpements have me completely heart broken and while I can't justify supporting that company, part of me still misses the game (TBC that is, I wouldn't touch retail with a ten foot pole, unless it was to beat it senseless using said pole).

Some of my WoW raid team transfered here, to FFXIV, and it's been a fantastic experience so far. It made me realize how I haven't allowed myself to fully enjoy games other than WoW, as if I'd always be bidding my time before my innevitable return to the king of MMOs. My personal recommendation, assuming the lack of good PvP content is a sacrifice you're willing to make, would be to just... give FFXIV an honest try. Join an FC, interract with the community, make yourself a nice bowl of popcorn and enjoy the phenomenal story told through quality cutscenes. This game has been a breath of fresh air for me after subsisting on WoW's stale oxygen for far too long, maybe it'll be the same for you.

And of it isn't, don't despair! There's plenty of games out there, old and new, that you now have the freedom to try and enjoy.

Hold onto the memories you made in WoW, but don't deny yourself the pleasure of making new ones!

[Theodric]

Think of it this way - there's probably games you used to play a lot when you were younger but haven't touched for years. Just like there's restaurants or coffee shops you might have enjoyed going to that have since closed down or you can no longer get to easily due to moving far away.

FFXIV isn't going to be around forever or even necessarily keep you interested for as long as it does exist. So with that in mind, I think it's best to be careful and not just replace one time sink with another time sink purely on the basis of wanting something to fill your free time with.

If you enjoy FFXIV? Great! Play it. Don't force it to 'fit' if it doesn't click with you, though - there's other potential options on the market that you could try. Some of them MMO's, others single player.

Above all else, no matter what controversies a company is involved in...the fond memories aren't necessarily invalidated. I stopped supporting Blizzard when racist and sexist comments were made by writers hired by the company. It was shocking to me that such horrible things were being written on Twitter and so I voted with my wallet and haven't looked back since.

Yet I still made some friends during my time playing WoW and I'm in touch with some of them to this very day.