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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Posts
    844
    Character
    Sqwall Lionheart
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    Bribing people with tomes is a terrible reward structure. Especially when you can get them through other means. Also, the fact they have to "bribe" people is telling of how crap the system is. People should want to do the content for intrinsic rewards
    It doesn't have to be tomestones, I just put that in there since that falls in line with all the other roulettes.

    I thought about adding a new currency that is used for trading for glamour, minions, housing items, or "Master" specific items at the Master Trader.
    Or specific mount that only drops in Master Roulette, or a trans mog item that is tied to specific dungeon.
    Housing items that are tied to master roulette to put on display.
    Purchase highest tier materia with this currency also, to sell or use.
    Special titles tied to Master Roulette.
    Special achievements tied to Master Roulette

    The whole idea is to make it optional, but not required. If it's not your thing...you don't have to. If you want to partake and achieve those goals...go for it.
    Ultimate isn't required
    Savage isn't required
    Extreme isn't required
    PVP isn't required
    Housing isn't required
    crafting isn't required
    gathering isn't required
    Gold Saucer isn't required
    Roulettes isn't required

    FFXIV is brilliant in what it describes as fun...it let's the player decide. I don't see the harm or problem in suggesting adding difficulty to the roulettes. Hard modes were great and added a fantastic spin on great dungeons.

    Expert roulette is no longer expert...it's just another daily chore.

    My current daily chore list (takes about 2-2 1/2 hours to complete):

    Farm for map sell map
    Check MB prices, farm for mats to make 250,000 gil for the day (personal goal)
    Setup retainer 18 hour ventures
    Setup Squadron 18 hour run
    Idle banter in FC chat while I post items, setup retainers/squadrons
    Run expert, 50/60/70/, trial in about an 45min-Hour (preferably with FC as it's faster, and I like helping them out)
    Check Party Finder, might run an extreme or savage.
    Check auctions once more
    Log out.
    Wait for FC weekly High End raid once a week

    This works for my schedule and lifestyle, but I would LOVE to change party finder and expert, 50,60,70, trial for a "Master Roulette" since I just don't need tomestones at this point and I want the challenge. Hell I would probably play longer if those challenges existed.

    Unreal was a test I felt...just to see who would want to go back to try old content at level 80. Maybe it's not something everyone does. But it shows that they CAN do it...and to me that's promising.
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    Velnora's Avatar
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    May 2020
    Posts
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    Character
    Velnora Pharetsu
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    It doesn't have to be tomestones, I just put that in there since that falls in line with all the other roulettes.

    I thought about adding a new currency that is used for trading for glamour, minions, housing items, or "Master" specific items at the Master Trader.
    Or specific mount that only drops in Master Roulette, or a trans mog item that is tied to specific dungeon.
    Housing items that are tied to master roulette to put on display.
    Purchase highest tier materia with this currency also, to sell or use.
    Special titles tied to Master Roulette.
    Special achievements tied to Master Roulette

    The whole idea is to make it optional, but not required. If it's not your thing...you don't have to. If you want to partake and achieve those goals...go for it.
    Ultimate isn't required
    Savage isn't required
    Extreme isn't required
    PVP isn't required
    Housing isn't required
    crafting isn't required
    gathering isn't required
    Gold Saucer isn't required
    Roulettes isn't required

    FFXIV is brilliant in what it describes as fun...it let's the player decide. I don't see the harm or problem in suggesting adding difficulty to the roulettes. Hard modes were great and added a fantastic spin on great dungeons.

    Expert roulette is no longer expert...it's just another daily chore.

    My current daily chore list (takes about 2-2 1/2 hours to complete):

    Farm for map sell map
    Check MB prices, farm for mats to make 250,000 gil for the day (personal goal)
    Setup retainer 18 hour ventures
    Setup Squadron 18 hour run
    Idle banter in FC chat while I post items, setup retainers/squadrons
    Run expert, 50/60/70/, trial in about an 45min-Hour (preferably with FC as it's faster, and I like helping them out)
    Check Party Finder, might run an extreme or savage.
    Check auctions once more
    Log out.
    Wait for FC weekly High End raid once a week

    This works for my schedule and lifestyle, but I would LOVE to change party finder and expert, 50,60,70, trial for a "Master Roulette" since I just don't need tomestones at this point and I want the challenge. Hell I would probably play longer if those challenges existed.

    Unreal was a test I felt...just to see who would want to go back to try old content at level 80. Maybe it's not something everyone does. But it shows that they CAN do it...and to me that's promising.
    Nothing is required, yet there is a whole lot of content that gives zero incentive to run it. It's all a bunch of salad. No meat and potatoes.
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