I think it's time for Mastered Roulette...expert is a joke.

[EriShvakh]

Every time I read another "I want them to add hard stuff into roulettes" thread, I have the same questions:
OP, are you, personally, ready to wipe over and over because other 3 players are not up to par? Are you ready to be kicked out when you are not doing so well? Are you ready lower the success rates of your roulettes from 99.999999% to 70%?

Or you going to hide behind "I only do hardmodes with premade"?

[van_arn]

I'd rather just see a second dungeon roulette, but at min ilvl. Leveling dungeons + 50/60/70/80 dungeons.

[Shurrikhan]

Gimme Aurum Vale Savage

Sadistic and likely satisfying. /chef's_kiss

I'd rather just see a second dungeon roulette, but at min ilvl. Leveling dungeons + 50/60/70/80 dungeons.

This would be by far the most efficient in-the-meantime option. But I'd hope we could continue thereafter towards making dungeons not just appropriately tuned to be less face-roll in terms of time spent, but actually make more mechanical engagement pertinent.

[Halivel]

I think you're missing the entire point of the roulette system. It exists to encourage leveled players to run lower end content so that leveling players can get a queue. The tomes/gear is you reward for assisting the community.

(edit: Yes, this includes expert. gaining ilevel is still "leveling" and despite the moniker Expert is still casual/leveling content for many)

This. Some people clearly have no idea how bad queues were whe Roulettes didn't exist. *6 hours Cyrscus Tower queue flahsbacks*

Not to say that I would be opposed of having harder dungeons, but Roulette isn't there to provide "complexity". It's there to keep existing dungeons alive no matter how old they are.

[LaylaTsarra]

It's meant for tome rewards that are relievedly quick and easy to get. Personally I don't run expert anymore when I cap I do it with A rank hunt trains which i find faster and much more rewarding from a tome/nuts perspective.

[IckeDerTyp]

The Normal 'hard mode' like we had up until SB was already really cool.

I understand they prolly won't want to spend resources to design all new dungeons twice but... They were amazing and I really miss em ^^

Also, please no M+... Am sure SE can come up with something more unique ( like hard mode sastasha~)

[Sqwall]

Every time I read another "I want them to add hard stuff into roulettes" thread, I have the same questions:
OP, are you, personally, ready to wipe over and over because other 3 players are not up to par? Are you ready to be kicked out when you are not doing so well? Are you ready lower the success rates of your roulettes from 99.999999% to 70%?

Or you going to hide behind "I only do hardmodes with premade"?

Personally...I like the triumph of working with a newb crew to overcome obstacles. I don't understand this idea of being afraid to wipe in dungeons....or kicking someone because they aren't getting it....I work with them and try to teach them.

I suppose I just don't give up when things aren't perfect on the first run...it's a game. All i'm asking for is an OPTION. Pretty much the option that I don't run MSQ roulette, or guildhests (does anyone?), or that I never touch frontline because it's pretty much meh.

Keyword....optional. You don't have to do it...if you don't want to. Much like I NEVER run leveling or normal anymore...because it's boring and not challenging at all.

Party Finder is ok, but I would argue with you on THAT is going to be more of a challenge then what i'm proposing. Party Finder is a literal "mixed bag" of skill level and engagement understanding. Should those people just kick everyone that doesn't cut the mustard? Or should you just work with those people and try to complete it. I have done this many times and worked with a new healer, or new tank and gave them tips, and then they get their first clear!

Some of us still want to be engaged with players....unlike with the current expert or 50/60/70. Nobody says anything outside of the o/.....and that's about it. Might as well run trusts and unplug my network cord.

[Caitlyn]

Did somebody noticed that all level-dungeons are way harder than those "endgame"-dungeons (50/60/70/80)?

Sure, you just spend 15 min max on a "Expert"-dungeon. But its pretty boring, because you can ignore mechanics and half-skilled WAR can do the entire dungeon without a healer. I dont see why those are called "Expert"-dungeons. Its more like Duty Roulette: Free Stones.

Dungeons on 50, 60 or 70 just take 10 mins only!

Making those dungeons harder may cause new problems. And by harder, I mean not just increase the life pool of monsters. Just add more trash or boss-mechanics. You may spend 5 mins longer in those dungeons, but at least its challenging and fun. And the rewards may be better of course ; )

Just another thing. Please. PLEASE! Add more dungeons to the Duty Roulette: Expert. 2 Dungeons are a joke! I m getting sick of walking Paglathan (or whatever its called) for the 50th time. Why not add the other Level 80 dungeons into the pool?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Challenging content? By all means, sure.
4-Player though? Hahahahahahano.

Yoshi-P wants their players to have less responsibilities in running their contents :P That’s very unlikely to happen.

[Payadopa]

Exactly.
At this point I'd take anything that adds 4ppl (light party) content, even if it was on savage difficulty or something.
Gimme Aurum Vale Savage (4 ppl) ^^

I'd take anything at this point. Dungeons are a complete joke and I don't always have time to get 8 ppl together. Give us challenging 4 man content, please. Why is having options such a terrible thing?