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  1. #61
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Currencies that bloat your inventory (Coins, Lost actions and relic mats)

    Lockboxes are extremely underwhelming. Indigo Stars being 80% of the loot is just insulting.

    Castrum LL and The Dalriada being CE's instead of queueable content. The bosses are the definition of HP sponges. Especially when a large portion of the raid doesn't use a single lost action.

    The zone is nothing more than glorified Fates.

    Yeah, consider me underwhelmed.

    Throw a few daily quests in there, and add back in the weekly challenge log and it would be much better.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #62
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    Bozja is the best part of shb
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  3. #63
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    I think Zandor was better overall but southern bozja was garbage and still garbage even with the nerf. The biggest mistake was made when SE decide to combine two content (potd and eureka) in one. They need to put POTD 3.0. Afterward, make some sort open world thing where you have option to grind (FATES/COLLECTING/CRAFTING) with daillies grind who gives a certain amounts of tokens for crafting/gathering/weapons relics (aka lazy person).

    Like exemple, I'm collecting items as a miner to exchange for DOW tokens for my drg relic, however the grind is long tedious because 100 items give me 1 DOW token. Meanwhile if you do it for gathering relics it's like 3 DOL tokens because it's gathering.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Now we just hope they find a way to let Eureka and Bozja come together and we get the perfect relic grind in Endwalker...hopefully...
    Or stop artificially propping these zones up by gating relics behind them and let them stand on their own feet with the content that they provide. If they are good zones, they won't need to have relics associated with them to make people want to go there.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Or stop artificially propping these zones up by gating relics behind them and let them stand on their own feet with the content that they provide. If they are good zones, they won't need to have relics associated with them to make people want to go there.
    Or at least have all the content occur there. I know it's first-weapon-only, but asking people to grind 10 hours of outdated FATES in HW and SB is kind of a further condemnation of the Bozjan experiment. So, rather than populate the zone itself with enough activities to keep people engaged, you send them on slogs into years'-old leveling aides because... what? You blew all the budget on the awesome aesthetics of the BSF?

    It's a huge zone when you consider the fact that it's ground-only. Yet 99 percent of the terrain is without purpose. All the action occurs on tiny pinpricks of real estate.
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    Last edited by TeraRamis; 07-30-2021 at 08:26 AM.

  6. #66
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Or at least have all the content occur there. I know it's first-weapon-only, but asking people to grind 10 hours of outdated FATES in HW and SB is kind of a further condemnation of the Bozjan experiment. So, rather than populate the zone itself with enough activities to keep people engaged, you send them on slogs into years'-old leveling aides because... what? You blew all the budget on the awesome aesthetics of the BSF?

    It's a huge zone when you consider the fact that it's ground-only. Yet 99 percent of the terrain is without purpose. All the action occurs on tiny pinpricks of real estate.
    Funny enough, if you go to back and look at all posts of those people being critical about Eureka, outdated content is what the vocal ones wanted on these forums. They didn't like the fact that all of the steps of the relic was gated behind Eureka. Heck, TaleraRistain's post is what was commonly said by the those who were critical of the content.

    This is what they asked for and we got it. FATE grinding in old zones, old raids, etc.
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  7. #67
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Or at least have all the content occur there. I know it's first-weapon-only, but asking people to grind 10 hours of outdated FATES in HW and SB is kind of a further condemnation of the Bozjan experiment. So, rather than populate the zone itself with enough activities to keep people engaged, you send them on slogs into years'-old leveling aides because... what? You blew all the budget on the awesome aesthetics of the BSF?

    It's a huge zone when you consider the fact that it's ground-only. Yet 99 percent of the terrain is without purpose. All the action occurs on tiny pinpricks of real estate.
    Or have both options. Have the questline take place outside of the zone in the "normal" world, probably centered around whatever is the hub city for the current expansion. Allow drop for steps both out there and in this instanced zone toward completing the quest. Make it less about where you do the content and more about what activity you are doing. I would love to see them branch out past FATEs and instances. Maybe something more like WT where you get ticks for a variety of different content. Let the challenge log be an option to get some steps completed, etc.

    And Xtrasweettea, my complaint against both Eureka and Bozja is that you are completely isolated from the rest of the game, divorced from normal activities, and to progress in those zones you have to sacrifice keeping up on your other activities. In ARR and HW, you progressed by doing your normal activities. You could grind each step as they came out quickly if you wanted. You could also take your time. You were encouraged to go out into the world, sometimes to places you hadn't been in a long time. Nobody was asking for FATE grinding in just old zones or old raids. We simply wanted to not feel like we were pushed into playing a completely separate game and forced into a choice where we either can keep up on things like weekly tomes or get progress toward the relic.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 07-30-2021 at 08:47 AM.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Or at least have all the content occur there. I know it's first-weapon-only, but asking people to grind 10 hours of outdated FATES in HW and SB is kind of a further condemnation of the Bozjan experiment. So, rather than populate the zone itself with enough activities to keep people engaged, you send them on slogs into years'-old leveling aides because... what? You blew all the budget on the awesome aesthetics of the BSF?
    I just don't understand why memory drops are bad RNG in Bozja, while they're 100% guaranteed upon getting a gold rank in Heavensward FATEs. Makes no sense. I WANT to do Bozja for my first relic upgrade, but it's so much slower than the alternative. Why they didn't buff the drop rates to 100% within Bozja is a mystery to me.

    Anyways, besides some questionable design choices, I actually really like Bozja/save the queen zones and raids. Miles better than Eureka in my opinion.
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  9. #69
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    The number one thing I was looking forward to with Bozja was duels but after learning how they work I don't even want to bother. The amount of time you have to spend just to see one only to fail because you don't have the right lost action or didn't understand a mechanic because you have no practice then it's back to grinding for hours.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    I just don't understand why memory drops are bad RNG in Bozja, while they're 100% guaranteed upon getting a gold rank in Heavensward FATEs. Makes no sense. I WANT to do Bozja for my first relic upgrade, but it's so much slower than the alternative. Why they didn't buff the drop rates to 100% within Bozja is a mystery to me.
    I'm completely mystified by that, too. I don't think Bozja should be higher. Just make them equal. Give people choices on how to do it.
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