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    Or they simply could say that they are against sell runs and they will ban people who advertise and buy them.

    Now the big discord/ reddit community's will follow it and Bann people who try to buy/ sell them.
    That will make it harder to find them and less people will use it.

    Also, a GM should try to buy these runs and then ban all involved accounts. That would take him just a day of work for each DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Or they simply could say that they are against sell runs and they will ban people who advertise and buy them.
    This can potentially open a big can of worms. I mean if you are strictly talking “don’t use the PF to list run selling”, I’m down for that. But if you are saying people who buy/sell runs in general… I’d be hesitant.

    Like if a friend of a friend of a friend that I don’t really care about asked me to help carry him and a few friends through all of Binding Coil, I don’t know this guy… I’m not interested. If he offered like a million gil, maybe I’d be down. Not an explicit sale, just “come on man, I’ll give you 1m gil!” There was no advertisement, but I would have accepted gil for my time.

    If his friend got offended that I had to be bought to spend my day on this and reported me, I could face potential ban for something I didn’t wanna do in the first place.

    I’ve done similar things with treasure maps where the friend can have all the drops: I just wanted straight gil. Essentially “you can have all the drops from my 3 maps as long as I make more money than I could sell them for on MB”.

    Sure, I could potentially make more getting materials, but my friend might also lose if no portals pop…he took a gamble.

    Slightly straw man… but truthfully in my mind the prestige of clearing some content is just more stuff. I took a lot of time and effort to get my crafter where it is (arguably less than Heavansward era.. but still). People don’t get mad about me selling beds in the market board, or yell at them to level carpenter and do it themselves. They just pay some money and get a bed.

    That’s my main point- selling a skill is fine, and should continue to be fine (mercenary work, etc).

    The problem is the RMT/account sharing which (like most black market/illicit goods) is hard to track down by authorities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Also, a GM should try to buy these runs and then ban all involved accounts. That would take him just a day of work for each DC.
    Your second point, doing a sting operation, sounds awesome…but I think that unless they take it to a next level by banning IPs or credit cards or even entire banks the bad guys are just going to circumvent the system.

    The best thing they can do is what they have done for most of the game’s content: make it so older content eventually becomes easier so people are not desperate to pay for runs.

    That’s when I stopped. I had made enough money (in game, no RMT) and by that time Titan, etc were easy enough people didn’t need me.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 07-29-2021 at 04:56 PM.

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