Free Company Housing Census - July 2021

[PewPewPewPewPew]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the stalker that has apparently returned after being unbanned and half their post history getting deleted.

Hopefully this time around they keep it in the housing forums and don't follow me elsewhere.

There it is. Backed into the corner and now gotta pull anything out of their empty small house backside. Time to hide your pitchfork and play the victim now again.

> Banned? Was not banned. I'm sorry I wasn't banned. I got tired of arguing with you.

> Half my post history removed? One post; in an argument with you over housing. Because it went from G-rated to PG-13 and using big large bold text scared you as you wept while profusely slamming that report button.

> Stalking? Who da hell wants to stalk you? You are literally degenerate housing justice warrior slenderman, making you worse than actual slenderman. This is the only forum you post in. You're like a sex offender calling other people the stalkers.

I kno it's hard facing the truth bud, but let's face it. You have nothing to contribute ever to this discussion other than hate, toxic negativity, and the same damn broken record suggestions that are radically unpopular. The sad thing is you can't take a hint and you are hopelessly delusional. I might own one too many houses, may be a jerk and too straightforward sometimes, but damn son I don't actually come here daily trying to pick fights and turn a gas leak into a nuclear disaster. You need to quit with this insane pursuit which you will NEVER win.

Edit: (I refrained from using large bold text so you wouldn't feel the need to hide under your bed and call your parents.)

[Canadane]

Wanna know what's even more concerning?

How personal housing accounts for 70% of the houses on the North American/European Data Centers despite being inherently inferior while also failing to accommodate nearly as many players as FC housing.

As someone with a personal house I'll be the first to admit that personal housing was a mistake.
Should have been FC only.

[Jojoya]

It's kind of concerning how many shell FCs exist.

I'd be more interest in who owns them more than straight numbers.

If the player only ones a single shell FC, that's understandable. It could be that they ended up the only one left active in a formerly active FC as other members transferred to other FCs/worlds or deleted characters they had stopped playing. It could be that they wanted to get a house at a time when there was a personal purchase moratorium so using a shell FC was the only way to do it. Owning a single FC house is within both the spirit and letter of the rules.

If the player own multiple shell FCs, that's a problem that SE needs to address.

As someone with a personal house I'll be the first to admit that personal housing was a mistake.
Should have been FC only.

Personal housing wasn't a mistake. FC housing tends to end up the plaything of a couple of officers while the rest of the members don't get to do anything other than walk around. It's not good content design when you give a small percentage of players control over other players' access to participate in content.

The real mistake was ward housing instead of instanced.

[Besame]

If it wasn't such a pain to move housing by completely dismantling everything, I'd attempt to upgrade my FC spot and dump my personal medium.

[Almagnus1]

If the player only ones a single shell FC, that's understandable. It could be that they ended up the only one left active in a formerly active FC as other members transferred to other FCs/worlds or deleted characters they had stopped playing.

I think that's where FC rank should play a part with the detection criteria in addition to FC population. I highly doubt that a former FC is going to be stuck at R6, or (like the example posted in the other thread) a FC of the married couple is going to be R6. Key part is figuring out what is (and isn't) a shell FC and hope the net causes as minimal collateral damage as possible.

If the player own multiple shell FCs, that's a problem that SE needs to address.

I honestly don't know if there's a good way to differentiate between one and the other. Although I would be open to a Mogg Station transaction for an FC house to allow the leader to turn it into a personal house if there has not been a leadership change in over a month or two.

Personal housing wasn't a mistake. FC housing tends to end up the plaything of a couple of officers while the rest of the members don't get to do anything other than walk around. It's not good content design when you give a small percentage of players control over other players' access to participate in content.

Agree 100%

The real mistake was ward housing instead of instanced.

Unfortunately, there's no way around this at this point as we're looking at Yoshi-P stuck with sunk cost fallacy.

While I would love to have a GC squadron based airship base, as that could have made sense story wise if Garlemald would have stayed the big bad (as I suspect we're going to be ending that empire with Endwalkers), I don't really see the need for this justification as we'd need some sort of big bad that we could perpetually deploy our GC squad against, and use the airship to help with said deployment. That doesn't really work if we keep taking out all the big bads as the warrior of light >.<

[Jojoya]

I think that's where FC rank should play a part with the detection criteria in addition to FC population. I highly doubt that a former FC is going to be stuck at R6, or (like the example posted in the other thread) a FC of the married couple is going to be R6. Key part is figuring out what is (and isn't) a shell FC and hope the net causes as minimal collateral damage as possible.

FC rank actually isn't a good way to go. It's based on generation of company credits and those are weighted heavily in favor of certain activities while other game content generates little or none.

By myself, I probably generate more company credits each week crafting than a full FC raid static does by raiding. Should that make me more entitled to a FC house than the static? Of course not.

FCs and their members shouldn't be forced into participating in certain content for the sake of owning and retaining a FC house when their actual content interests (other than having the house to share) lie elsewhere.

The FC system in general could use a major overhaul (not just on the housing aspects). It's rooted in content (Grand Companies) that has been largely neglected since ARR (addition of Squadrons being the exception).

I honestly don't know if there's a good way to differentiate between one and the other. Although I would be open to a Mogg Station transaction for an FC house to allow the leader to turn it into a personal house if there has not been a leadership change in over a month or two.

SE should have no issue generating a report that lists accounts with characters in FCs that own a house and have 4 or fewer members. Players with multiple shell FCs would stand out.

And no, let's not add any system that allows FC houses to be converted to private houses or vice versa. That would be riddled with abuse. I've already pointed out how FC houses tend to end up the play thing of the FC leaders and maybe a few officers. Let's not give players the ability to use FC funds to purchase what they plan to turn into their personal house while the FC members who paid for it get evicted.

[Almagnus1]

The FC system in general could use a major overhaul (not just on the housing aspects). It's rooted in content (Grand Companies) that has been largely neglected since ARR (addition of Squadrons being the exception).

Well, I think the trust system largely obsoleted the squadrons, and without having a perpetual big bad that we can fight against, I'm not sure what use the squadrons would have moving forward. I could see wanting to build them up to being able to field them to a raid... but until there's content that would warrant you leading three squads into combat... I don't see how it would make sense. One thing with housing that would make sense tied to the squadrons (assuming we could ever get it) would be the ability to build and command an airship that acts as your mobile base that would effectively be an instanced house.

SE should have no issue generating a report that lists accounts with characters in FCs that own a house and have 4 or fewer members. Players with multiple shell FCs would stand out.

I'm getting the distinct feeling like this is SE's last resort, and I'm betting that SE is probably going to deal with this issue by adding in a ton of personal housing so acquisition isn't as painful as it is now. That said, the shell FC issue has got to be dealt with at some point in time especially since it can be construed to be a violation of CoC, specifically considered obstructive behavior ( https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...&la=1&ret=rule )

And no, let's not add any system that allows FC houses to be converted to private houses or vice versa. That would be riddled with abuse. I've already pointed out how FC houses tend to end up the play thing of the FC leaders and maybe a few officers. Let's not give players the ability to use FC funds to purchase what they plan to turn into their personal house while the FC members who paid for it get evicted.

Well if your FC has a leader that's selfish enough to do that, I think they'd be doing you a service as that act would likely destroy the FC and that wouldn't be an FC you'd want to be part of anyhow.

That said, I would be OK if it was a one-time only time limited thing as an olive branch before harsher penalties came online.

[Sotaris]

You want to know what's more concerning?

That you been on this witch hunt for nearly 5 years on the forum and you still whine like a little baby. Every time SE takes some sort of action you always gotta move your goal posts so you can keep kickin' your feet like a spoiled little brat about something.

> Like that time you suggested SE should autodisband FC's with 4 members or less. (By the way, so many user have asked you what gives you the right to determine that FC's are only 'active' if they got more than 4 people. You never once answered because you dont have an answer. You run tail between legs every time like a whimp.)

> Like that time you suggested placards should have timers (and got your wish) so now everyone can sit there clicking their arm off.

> Like that time you suggested apartments should have rent and taxation now.

> Like that time you suggested lotteries and raffles (for the 83902nd time).

> Like that time you launched your war against multi-house owners because you were convinced they were holding all the houses on all servers hostage (despite data showing it to be untrue).

Like every damn time when you post about anything.

You and your literally garbage ideas hurt more people than it benefits. And every time SE actually implements one of them, then you come right back to the forums all OH NO I DIDN'T KNO IT WAS GUNNA DO THAT. And then you gotta shift your goalposts yet again so you can avoid being wrong for the nth time. Everytime someone questions you and corners you, you default right back to "WELL SE SHOULD ADD MORE HOUSES DURRR". It's time to quit now.

Buddy you got zero credibility and your suggestions and opinions are nothing short of worthless. Day in day out you scream the same dirt because you're just this bitter little manchild who wants to be some hero to housing no matter the cost. Hell someone even made a website with data and you still wanna make up these insane theories about how the universe revolves around you.

Everyone in the housing forum should know who to thank for all the upcoming changes to make their lives more miserable. The ones who own multiple houses are not the most toxic people. The most toxic one is actually you pal.

I love you

[Big_Bap]

I asked on the JP forums why they like smaller FCs that this lunatic would define as "shell" FCs and what they think about his "suggestion" to delete them. Nobody agrees with him LOL https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-北米のプレイヤーからの質問

[Almagnus1]

I asked on the JP forums why they like smaller FCs that this lunatic would define as "shell" FCs and what they think about his "suggestion" to delete them. Nobody agrees with him LOL https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-北米のプレイヤーからの質問

How is this relevant to this thread?