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    Just add Helios a male, and Dps fairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Just add Helios a male, and Dps fairy.
    This would absolutely depend on how it's implemented. If you summon it instead of your healer faerie, then I completely disagree with it. While it would absolutely help in soloing and would create an element of optimization for high skilled players, this would risk proving toxic in the hands of less skilled players. Remember all the memes of SCH just sitting in cleric stance and not helping their co-healers heal at all? While at high levels of play SCHs absolutely carried their weight and more in heals, this meme certainly existed for a reason with more average players.

    Personally if we where to have a dps faerie, it would need to be a seperate "turret" we summon and place on the field, just like a Searing Totem from WoW. Heck, you could divide it into two skills

    Skill A: Summon Helios, who will strike the last target you applied Biolysis with Solar Ray, dealing fire aspected damage with a potency of X for Y seconds. Gain 5 Fae Aether everytime Helios successful strikes a target with Solar Ray.

    Skill B: Summon Helios, who will create a Solar Wind in a 5 yalm radius around him, dealing fire aspected damage with a potency of Z to each target every 3 seconds for Y seconds, if Solar Wind hits more then 2 enemies gain 5 Fae Aether.
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    Fairy capabilities aside just give us customizable skins for the ones we have =(
    I want my Selene too play the part! she should have a moon theme! that would fir perfectly with my Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te.
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    Easy fix, Summon I and Summon II permanently upgrade into Summon Seraph. Seraph is now the permanent form of Lily. Yes, I said Lily, because Eos and Selene were merely "modes" she was in that effected her abilities prior to this (at least in ARR to SB) as stated by the Tonberry trainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Just add Helios a male, and Dps fairy.
    I’d love this. Wonder why they haven’t added him yet. Maybe because they are afraid it would step on summoners door? It could also be a CD as well. Summon Helios for a certain amount of time to deal good damage then leave.
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    Selene needed Fey Blessing instead of the awful Silence. She still would have been the low healing fairy but it would have been just enough to feel like she was still a healer's companion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Buzz words don't make your point correct I'm afraid. Raiders weren't to blame for healers being streamlined into the brown mush that they are today. Ask any world prog healer that's been around since 2.0 and they will generally point towards Heavensward being the peak for healers.

    I'm far more inclined to believe that SE took this approach to streamline the design process for healers and reduce the amount of time needed on each job within the role. If you are interested in the facts that I'm basing my opinion on, have a look at https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ealer-designer.

    The TLDR is that SE's job design team is stretched paper thin and that still stands true to this day.
    I mean dps healer wise it whas the peak but just don’t talk about the rest……. Like 1 healer job whas almost not playable (looking at astro). Whm whas mana starved and sch doing insane dmg and having the best tools and mana back then. Balance wise HW whas a rough road for healers. But every role had jobs no one wanted in progress groups aka monk, Paladin and astro. Feeling wise healers are so bad it’s insane but balancing wise it’s never been better (ofc it takes a entire expansion too get there like always)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    I mean dps healer wise it whas the peak but just don’t talk about the rest……. Like 1 healer job whas almost not playable (looking at astro). Whm whas mana starved and sch doing insane dmg and having the best tools and mana back then. Balance wise HW whas a rough road for healers. But every role had jobs no one wanted in progress groups aka monk, Paladin and astro. Feeling wise healers are so bad it’s insane but balancing wise it’s never been better (ofc it takes a entire expansion too get there like always)
    That's a fair point, AST's dark days were primarily in Gordias, whilst WHM's MP starvation was more a Creator thing (especially A12S, that was awful). I'd say that Midas was actually pretty good though. SCH was still as good as indispensable but AST and WHM were very well matched for that tier to the point where I actually switched between the two depending on the turn.
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