Selene and Eos

[RyuDragnier]

Easy fix, Summon I and Summon II permanently upgrade into Summon Seraph. Seraph is now the permanent form of Lily. Yes, I said Lily, because Eos and Selene were merely "modes" she was in that effected her abilities prior to this (at least in ARR to SB) as stated by the Tonberry trainer.

[SweetPete]

Just add Helios a male, and Dps fairy.

I’d love this. Wonder why they haven’t added him yet. Maybe because they are afraid it would step on summoners door? It could also be a CD as well. Summon Helios for a certain amount of time to deal good damage then leave.

[KDSilver]

Yet another thing that got sacrificed for balance and making raider (aka the vocal minority) happy.

From what I've read the past years, people were asking Selene to be more useful outside of Fey Wind.
Silence and aoe dispel were niche and too situationnal to be worth.

No one asked, casual or raider her to be reduced to a fairy glamour.

[NobleWinter]

Selene needed Fey Blessing instead of the awful Silence. She still would have been the low healing fairy but it would have been just enough to feel like she was still a healer's companion.

[Truen]

RIP Deployment tactics on Eos/Selene, it was fun while it lasted.

I really wish that Pets for both Scholar and SMN would be both targetable/killable again, since it had alot of potential abilitywise.

So do I...just another example of a terrible change the horrible 5.0 patch-apocalypse released upon this game.

[glamazon]

All the cash this game makes them why can’t they hire more designers?!!

[Mortex]

Buzz words don't make your point correct I'm afraid. Raiders weren't to blame for healers being streamlined into the brown mush that they are today. Ask any world prog healer that's been around since 2.0 and they will generally point towards Heavensward being the peak for healers.

I'm far more inclined to believe that SE took this approach to streamline the design process for healers and reduce the amount of time needed on each job within the role. If you are interested in the facts that I'm basing my opinion on, have a look at https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ealer-designer.

The TLDR is that SE's job design team is stretched paper thin and that still stands true to this day.

I mean dps healer wise it whas the peak but just don’t talk about the rest……. Like 1 healer job whas almost not playable (looking at astro). Whm whas mana starved and sch doing insane dmg and having the best tools and mana back then. Balance wise HW whas a rough road for healers. But every role had jobs no one wanted in progress groups aka monk, Paladin and astro. Feeling wise healers are so bad it’s insane but balancing wise it’s never been better (ofc it takes a entire expansion too get there like always)

[Sebazy]

I mean dps healer wise it whas the peak but just don’t talk about the rest……. Like 1 healer job whas almost not playable (looking at astro). Whm whas mana starved and sch doing insane dmg and having the best tools and mana back then. Balance wise HW whas a rough road for healers. But every role had jobs no one wanted in progress groups aka monk, Paladin and astro. Feeling wise healers are so bad it’s insane but balancing wise it’s never been better (ofc it takes a entire expansion too get there like always)

That's a fair point, AST's dark days were primarily in Gordias, whilst WHM's MP starvation was more a Creator thing (especially A12S, that was awful). I'd say that Midas was actually pretty good though. SCH was still as good as indispensable but AST and WHM were very well matched for that tier to the point where I actually switched between the two depending on the turn.