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    Are hrothgar and coeurls related?

    I noticed that there is an option to have coeurl whiskers on Hrothgar. Also, some of the Bozja NPCs have the strange coeurl whiskers as well. It got me thinking about what is the function of those whiskers. Is it a vestigial body part for some Hrothgar?
    And thinking about how there are Hrothgars with a horn and Hrothgars with larger fangs and how that makes them a sub-race. Is the whisker thing another unwritten sub-race of Hrothgar? According to some lore I read, Coeurls are from the Near-East, so maybe these Hrothgar with the coeurl whiskers are descendants from that area instead of Ilsabard.
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    There is no indication that Hrothgar are related to coeurls. Or that Miqo'te are related to cats. Or Viera to rabbits. Other than pure 'this part resembles that part' conjecture.
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    From what I can tell, there is no relation. However, considering that we do not encounter any Couerls or Behemoths on the First, I'm going to go under a crazy theory that they are in fact Hrothgar experimented on by the Allagans, which led to the creations of these creatures out in the wild. This would explain why there are none on the First, because the Allagans did not exist there, and the one major Empire that did, Ronka, was ruled BY Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    From what I can tell, there is no relation. However, considering that we do not encounter any Couerls or Behemoths on the First, I'm going to go under a crazy theory that they are in fact Hrothgar experimented on by the Allagans, which led to the creations of these creatures out in the wild. This would explain why there are none on the First, because the Allagans did not exist there, and the one major Empire that did, Ronka, was ruled BY Hrothgar.
    Couerls are native to Thavnair. It would make sense why we don't see any on the First because their version of Thavnair was eaten up by the Flood. Behemoths are anyone's guess since the lorebook says they were completely unknown until the latest umbral era but personally I'm personally kind of sick of everything being traced back to the Allagans.

    As far as why there are some hrothgar with couerl whiskers, I think it's just that the devs wanted a creative option that felt Final Fantasy-esque rather than anything that's supposed to be seriously looked into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    As far as why there are some hrothgar with couerl whiskers, I think it's just that the devs wanted a creative option that felt Final Fantasy-esque rather than anything that's supposed to be seriously looked into.
    Maybe that's just what happens to big cats when a certain gene is turned on, and couerls have it turned on by default?
    Like pump enough Big Whisker Hormone into a lion and it'll sprout some of those too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Maybe that's just what happens to big cats when a certain gene is turned on, and couerls have it turned on by default?
    Like pump enough Big Whisker Hormone into a lion and it'll sprout some of those too?
    Lions in this game don't need anymore of any kind of hormone. We're kinda lucky Hrothgar don't look like their shoulders are going to explode too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Couerls are native to Thavnair. It would make sense why we don't see any on the First because their version of Thavnair was eaten up by the Flood. Behemoths are anyone's guess since the lorebook says they were completely unknown until the latest umbral era but personally I'm personally kind of sick of everything being traced back to the Allagans.
    Ahh, but who was there in Thavnair in the past? THE ALLAGAN EMPIRE! Joking aside, I find it silly to not assume the Allagans could be involved, they literally created the Ixali, captured Elder Primals, made Dalamud, and Crystal Tower (a tower made up of white auracite). They had their hands in so many things we've encountered up to now that it's not inconceivable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    not encounter any Couerls or Behemoths on the First
    There are caracals in the Rak'tika Greatwood.

    No behemoths perhaps, but they seem to be found in snowy regions and Norvrandt doesn't have any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There are caracals in the Rak'tika Greatwood.

    No behemoths perhaps, but they seem to be found in snowy regions and Norvrandt doesn't have any.
    Yeah though given that most of the FIrst was wiped out just 100 years ago, and Norvrandt is all that is actually left, that doesn't really tell us much sadly.
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    I've been wondering for a while what exactly the deal with all the sapient species in FFXIV is, actually. Given that they (most of them...) exist on the First as well means they predate the Sundering, so does that mean they existed alongside Amaurot? Came after, and were the "new life" that's constantly alluded to after Zodiark's summoning?
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