STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[Kolsykol]

I find it ridiculous and offensive (but not surprising) that all of their effort has gone to making bras and panties wearable for men, while putting comparatively little time into allowing female characters to wear male clothing.

We all know why this is, and it's nonsense.

Wat.
What are you talking about lol.
What '' bras and panties ''?
The closest thing is the 2B legs and it's meant to be a leotard but is just a separate piece.

Female gear in the game is already significantly more varied than it is for male characters, it's not an actual problem for female characters at all just because some gear is different on female characters doesn't change this it's just a fact if you actually look at the gear in the game.
Adding more feminine or skimpy gear to male characters actually adds more variety to male characters, adding more pants and shirts to female characters wouldn't it'd be more of the same and what like 95% of the gear is.

And when we got stuff like the Noctis outfit it was the same for female characters there's not a conspiracy here as you seem to be implying.
There are people who want to wear feminine or skimpy outfits, it tends to more often than not lean towards female characters ( for women who play the game too btw ).
Probably a lot of reasons why there's a lot of stigma towards men being seen as sexual and showing off in a way more aimed at gay men and women but I fail to see why SE giving people who want that options is a problem.
Female characters already have all kinds of options at their disposal.

Or maybe it's nonsense that my catgirl cant wear the miquote male shorts. Would that destroy the matrix and ruin the game?

The real reason is that male to female is hilariously over represented and nobody cares about female to male. Square wont get any virtue points for pandering to them.

For this very obvious reason, I can assure you male bunny suits and panties will always be priority number one. I'm sure it's a coincidence that Male Bunny's (uwu) were finished in time for Endwalker, and half of the people i know who play the game DIDNT EVEN KNOW they were adding female Hrothgar Soon(TM)

You're reading so much into it based on very specific examples and your own feelings about not getting what you want in a particular case.

[SolviteSekai]

Wat.
What are you talking about lol.
What '' bras and panties ''?
The closest thing is the 2B legs and it's meant to be a leotard but is just a separate piece.

Female gear in the game is already significantly more varied than it is for male characters, it's not an actual problem for female characters at all just because some gear is different on female characters doesn't change this it's just a fact if you actually look at the gear in the game.
Adding more feminine or skimpy gear to male character actually adds more variety to male characters, adding more pants and shirts to female characters wouldn't it'd be more of the same and what like 95% of the gear is.

And when we got stuff like the Noctis outfit it was the same for female characters there's not a conspiracy here as you seem to be implying.
There are people who want to wear feminine or skimpy outfits, it tends to more often than not lean towards female characters ( for women who play the game too btw ).
Probably a lot of reasons why there's a lot of stigma towards men being seen as sexual and showing off in a way more aimed at gay men and women but I fail to see why SE giving people who want that options is a problem.
Female characters already have all kinds of options at their disposal.



You're reading so much into it based on very specific examples and your own feelings about not getting what you want in a particular case.

You think the complete dismissal of FtM trans people by media and hollywood is a conspiracy?

Do you not have eyes?

[DBriggs304]

I find it ridiculous and offensive (but not surprising) that all of their effort has gone to making bras and panties wearable for men, while putting comparatively little time into allowing female characters to wear male clothing.

We all know why this is, and it's nonsense.

Yes, resurrecting this thread was nonsense.

[anhaato]

Yknow it's possible for both to be true right? This game needs more "masc" glams and also needs to stop genderlocking stuff. Both can be true.

[SolviteSekai]

Yknow it's possible for both to be true right? This game needs more "masc" glams and also needs to stop genderlocking stuff. Both can be true.

I think the goal for Square Enix is definitely to have mainstream gaming articles about how males can wear bunny suits. I don't think their goal is to be accommodating. Hence why they went out of their way for that, and everything else is "we'll get around to it"

Unlocking the race-and-gender-specific hempen sets is a whole separate kettle of fish again, given that they have ignored player requests to make them non-race-specific for years.

Damn if only they had so many players they literally cant sell the game anymore and could invest that growth into something that represents everyone and not just what will get them props on twitter.

[AtlasS]

[Gothicshark]

EDIT: Disappointed, but not surprised at the level of homophobia/transphobia, hate and apathy directed towards gender non-conforming people wanting to be able to have options in this game. A sad world.

I'm a fan of more options, more options is good. As to your edit, yeah I've noticed that the Forum Devs don't censor the bigots. I've reported most over the years, and nothing has ever stopped them. Which is rather annoying, as in game if someone said the same, or if they said it on twitch they would be banned from the game. These forums are like mos eisley due to the lack of moderation.

[SolviteSekai]

I'm a fan of more options, more options is good. As to your edit, yeah I've noticed that the Forum Devs don't censor the bigots. I've reported most over the years, and nothing has ever stopped them. Which is rather annoying, as in game if someone said the same, or if they said it on twitch they would be banned from the game. These forums are like mos eisley due to the lack of moderation.

"Everyone I don't like is a bigot, and this place has no rules because they aren't silenced"

Also just to clarify, this isnt really a discussion.

They've objectively put far more work into making traditionally feminine "sexy glamours" available to male presenting characters and releasing uwu bunny boys as soon as possible than they have into the opposite for female presenting characters and we still dont even know when female hrothgar are coming. This is just fact.

[Gothicshark]

"Everyone I don't like is a bigot, and this place has no rules because they aren't silenced"

Also just to clarify, this isnt really a discussion.

They've objectively put far more work into making traditionally feminine "sexy glamours" available to male presenting characters and releasing uwu bunny boys as soon as possible than they have into the opposite for female presenting characters and we still dont even know when female hrothgar are coming. This is just fact.

There are actual homophobes and transphobes on these forums, who display actual bigotry and hate, that is not a case of like or dislike, and the forum moderators don't respond to reports of it when made.

[AlyaNimfa]

If you are FTM, wouldn't you roll a male toon? And MTF would roll a female toon?

I'm honestly confused, especially since I happen to know several people in that scenario, and they play the character genders they feel more in tune with. This includes a family member of mine who plays.

I would love to see the reasoning behind the argument, because so far it doesn't make a single jot of sense.