STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[KizuyaKatogami]

For me, I honestly don't care what people are. I'm a girl and I wanted 9S outfit too.
I just think people should be able to wear whatever they please in my honest opinion. Peoples sexuality on the matter doesn't matter to me as they're just clothes.
Here's another example of something I want, the male version of this:

Shirt > Dress.

And, to an extent i agree. It would be a benefit for both the female characters and male characters. My point is, it doesnt change the fact that the game is pretty bias towards feminine clothing. Whereas masculine clothing is much more rare in comparison. We have to acknowledge that it would take immense resources to go to every piece of gear and ungenderlock it so to speak. I think before we even start thinking about that, we need to start seeing some changes and more equality with the sets we're getting now. Because typically gender neutral or ungenderlocked things or male outfits typically look much better on female characters than female outfits look on male characters. So id rather some time be put towards giving us some masculine or male themed gear as opposed to continuing the bias of feminine gear. Then once thats settled i dont really have a problem with ungenerlocked gear so long as we are getting a balance of everything. Problem is again,that takes a lot of resources, which the devs apparently cant even do the bare minimum and make all gear dyable.

[Gothicshark]

And, to an extent i agree. It would be a benefit for both the female characters and male characters. My point is, it doesnt change the fact that the game is pretty bias towards feminine clothing. Whereas masculine clothing is much more rare in comparison. We have to acknowledge that it would take immense resources to go to every piece of gear and ungenderlock it so to speak. I think before we even start thinking about that, we need to start seeing some changes and more equality with the sets we're getting now. Because typically gender neutral or ungenderlocked things or male outfits typically look much better on female characters than female outfits look on male characters. So id rather some time be put towards giving us some masculine or male themed gear as opposed to continuing the bias of feminine gear. Then once thats settled i dont really have a problem with ungenerlocked gear so long as we are getting a balance of everything. Problem is again,that takes a lot of resources, which the devs apparently cant even do the bare minimum and make all gear dyable.

They have a lot of masculine sets, just as many as they have feminine sets, in fact masculine sets are way easy to get, as they are usually "all class" sets for glam, and can be either earned with in game currency or crafted. Where as Feminine sets are either class locked or store purchased. The best looking dress in the game is level 80 Caster Locked (type 51 caster)which is great if I was a Caster Main on my actual main. But I play Ranged/Melee on my actual main character. And most of the outfits sets are overly masculine.

Edit: Adding the image of the type 51 caster set, best looking dress for females, and rather cool looking lab coat for males. I dislike that it's a gender flip set, and females can't wear the labcoat, and males can't wear the awesome dress.


and if you don't believe me that most of the ranged sets are masculine, look at this list: Eorzea collection ranged sets on female models


Bigger list, all melee and ranged sets on female model sorted by Ilevel

Except the sets that flip artwork for females, all of these sets are very masculine.

[KizuyaKatogami]

They have a lot of masculine sets, just as many as they have feminine sets, in fact masculine sets are way easy to get, as they are usually "all class" sets for glam, and can be either earned with in game currency or crafted. Where as Feminine sets are either class locked or store purchased. The best looking dress in the game is level 80 Caster Locked (type 51 caster)which is great if I was a Caster Main on my actual main. But I play Ranged/Melee on my actual main character. And most of the outfits sets are overly masculine.

Edit: Adding the image of the type 51 caster set, best looking dress for females, and rather cool looking lab coat for males. I dislike that it's a gender flip set, and females can't wear the labcoat, and males can't wear the awesome dress.


and if you don't believe me that most of the ranged sets are masculine, look at this list: Eorzea collection ranged sets on female models

Exactly, I don't see why people are bringing sexuality (theirs of other people) into this. It's more about not locking clothes into gender roles. Clothes shouldn't have gender to begin with, they're just clothes. And how does it hurt anybody's eyes to see somebody wear whatever, as long as it's decent?

I bring up my sexuality because typically people try to bring up homophobia for other people not consorting to their beliefs. In some ways it can help to give that piece of information as typically these types of conversations are geared toward specific types of people.

Hard disagree on there being just as many masculine sets as feminine. Thats just factually untrue. In the end though tastes are subjective, so what you see as the best dress may be the worst one for others. One prime example is look at all the healer sets in the game. Even the caster ones as theyre typically just darker colored versions of the healer sets. Typically extremely feminine.

[Gothicshark]

One prime example is look at all the healer sets in the game. Even the caster ones as theyre typically just darker colored versions of the healer sets. Typically extremely feminine.

Hard disagree, with added link to gear sets as evidence. Sure some of the lower level sets are fugly robes, and White Mage Class Sets tend towards the frilly, for the most part Males wearing magic based gear sets look fairly masculine.

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Meanwhile a look at crafted glamour sets on females, sure a few dresses, but the majority are pants and shirts

[KizuyaKatogami]

Hard disagree, with added link to gear sets as evidence. Sure some of the lower level sets are fugly robes, and White Mage Class Sets tend towards the frilly, for the most part Males wearing magic based gear sets look fairly masculine.

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Meanwhile a look at crafted glamour sets on females, sure a few dresses, but the majority are pants and shirts

Outside of the first couple of rows, the rest are literally extremely feminine. Hell, this expansion they literally gave the male tomestone gear a female outfit. They literally just copy and pasted rydia's dress and barely made any alterations to it and said here guys, enjoy. When multiple people say we need more masculine gear im inclined to agree with it lol.

[LisSquid]

Outside of the first couple of rows, the rest are literally extremely feminine. Hell, this expansion they literally gave the male tomestone gear a female outfit. They literally just copy and pasted rydia's dress and barely made any alterations to it and said here guys, enjoy. When multiple people say we need more masculine gear im inclined to agree with it lol.

To be fair, we're arguing mostly role based glams now. Healing gear is and will always (sadly) be extremely feminine. Just like how tanking gear will always be very masculine. This is how SE envisions the roles and I don't see that changing.

What we can ask for is cosmetics to alleviate this, which is the thread topic.

[Gothicshark]

Outside of the first couple of rows, the rest are literally extremely feminine. Hell, this expansion they literally gave the male tomestone gear a female outfit. They literally just copy and pasted rydia's dress and barely made any alterations to it and said here guys, enjoy. When multiple people say we need more masculine gear im inclined to agree with it lol.

You're going to have to be specific, besides 2 white mage sets, none of the caster clothing looks feminine to me on a male character, yes a lot of robes, but men have been wearing robes historically a lot longer than women ever have. The most feminine look not a white mage look is one Black Mage set which is fugly as all hell, and that one is not a gendered look just a fugly one.

Oh and the one Healer set with the Helm of fugly mouths from level 50 tower.

[KizuyaKatogami]

You're going to have to be specific, besides 2 white mage sets, none of the caster clothing looks feminine to me on a male character, yes a lot of robes, but men have been wearing robes historically a lot longer than women ever have. The most feminine look not a white mage look is one Black Mage set which is fugly as all hell, and that one is not a gendered look just a fugly one.

Oh and the one Healer set with the Helm of fugly mouths from level 50 tower.

The eden ones for example.

[Stachiko]

and males can't wear the awesome dress.

This bothered me greatly. The dress is amazing. Everything about it is just so right. Meanwhile the men look so stuffy and over-burdened. Both are cool though, just wish I had the dang dress.

I don't considering myself bi or gay in an absolute sense, but I do enjoy feeling feminine. Better yet, I enjoy being whatever gender I want to be from a male-originating perspective. I want androgyny dangit. That means I want male and female clothes on my character.

Square, stop genderizing gear.