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    Joven's Avatar
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I guess people who say "it's as easy as a blink" talk about something they didn't experiment by themselves. They proably imagine it's just some kind of copy past. It's not.

    Go do 3D models, two genders (two topologies), with animations, clothings. Do the copy past you think as "good enough", you will see how far you're wrong. Unless you don't care for quality.

    If it is so easy, why do exist specializations in
    texture
    modeling
    animation
    code (C++)
    code (OpenGL, DirectX)
    3D engine (models, maps)
    lights
    effects
    post-prod?
    If it is that easy, one people could do all. Reality is different, ask yourself why.
    I think people are mislead by YouTubers who make their own games and such. What they probably don't understand is what they're seeing is a heavily edited outcome of something that generally takes hours and days for the simplest things and most of the ones I've watched use premade assets to speed up the process.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I would say masculine fashion would be something, like feminine fashion, that accentuates a male's traits. Something like open shirts that bare the chest or ones that are sleeveless to show off muscle. Personally if I wanted my male characters to be dressed masculine I'd just have them with their shirts off. I already do that with my hrothgar alts. Outside of musculature and their bait'n tackle, men don't really have as much to focus on as women.
    The semi-open shirts are a good point. Things like the Infantry shirt and the Holy Rainbow series (if only they'd given it a more sensible name) look better on men, and I feel like the female version with the visible bra underneath gives a "showing off" vibe to it where they're just casual loose-fitting shirts on men.


    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Well a majority of it is as simple as you said. Gear that isn’t a frilly, ribbon fest is a good start. For me it would be headsets that maybe show more muscle or accentuates the chest/abs area of the males. Things of that nature. Like, for some of the frilly or ribbon-y healer outfits, they could easily just turn them into tunics. There’s a big difference between something like the hellfire set and the 2b set is what i mean. The hellfire set has that chest window which is semi-revealing but the overall glamour is pretty masculine. Things of that nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Ty for the thought out response! Unfortunately i’m really not a fan of the modern glams. I’ve always been a fan of the medieval type of aspect ff has had [...] I kind of greatly dislike things like the hoodies and the baseball cap etc just because it feels so out of place and i’m a nerd who likes to feel immersed .
    I'm honestly confused about what you're saying now vs what you've said in the past, which is usually how much you wanted 9S's gear... but that's modern, which you don't like. And if it had been given out as glamour like 2B's dress, it would have been unisex and would have looked good on female characters so wouldn't that have ruled it out for you anyway?

    And the Hellfire armour is something I've always regarded as quite a feminine armour set and never would have expected to get brought up as an example of masculine gear. It's not feminine in the way that the 2B dress is shaped to suit a woman and literally falls flat on a male body shape, but I wouldn't put it on any of my male characters.

    So just saying "I want more masculine gear" isn't enough to convey what you actually want. I had really assumed you must dislike the fantasy side of things because that's where male characters do get things that are (to me) unquestionably menswear.

    I do agree more things could do with turning into tunics (though we're not totally lacking them as it is) - Ruby Cotton Chasuble is the big one that comes to mind that could have been altered, where just cutting the front flap short would do a lot to make it less dress-like while still being an ornate top and cape.
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