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    It just sounds like you're asking for something else entirely that is not inherently correlated to the OP's topic.

    OP wants genderlock to be removed, that doesn't mean less traditionally masculine glamours, they don't cancel each other out, nor does it mean more "unisex" glamour. Additionally a lot of glamours considered unisex in fact seem to heavily lean on the masculine side, because it's acceptable for women to wear what used to be exclusively masculine clothing while the opposite isn't.

    In my case, I don't care how an outfit is gendered, if it looks good on my character's figure or compliments the rest of the outfit for things like shoes or hats, I'd like to have it.
    I exclusively have mogstation outfits locked for males in my glamour dresser because I have been playing a male au ra for easily over 97% of my playtime (who have a pretty feminine figure btw), I can't use at the time I'm writing this, even if they aren't inherently masculine, or even trade at a salvager, they're effectively wasting inventory slots and are unusable unless I give SE even more money. It is what it is but that doesn't seem very consumer-friendly at all.

    I share a lot of the "not enough masculine stuff" woes, but I also very much wish glamour wouldn't be locked by gender or jobs and would give the players more options to make nice glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    It just sounds like you're asking for something else entirely that is not inherently correlated to the OP's topic.

    OP wants genderlock to be removed, that doesn't mean less traditionally masculine glamours, they don't cancel each other out, nor does it mean more "unisex" glamour. Additionally a lot of glamours considered unisex in fact seem to heavily lean on the masculine side, because it's acceptable for women to wear what used to be exclusively masculine clothing while the opposite isn't.
    SE isn't even doing earholes for miqo'te and barely does bows or whatever to hide tail clipping on sets. If the genderlock was entirely removed for all sets moving forward, we would probably get less outfit variation overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    SE isn't even doing earholes for miqo'te and barely does bows or whatever to hide tail clipping on sets. If the genderlock was entirely removed for all sets moving forward, we would probably get less outfit variation overall.
    And I really think people should ask better from SE especially with the growing popularity of XIV rather than put each other's wishes down in fear of a drop in quality. We should be able to get more new things without other aspects of the game or system suffering for it in the future because the game is not stagnating, whether we will or not is something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    And I really think people should ask better from SE especially with the growing popularity of XIV rather than put each other's wishes down in fear of a drop in quality. We should be able to get more new things without other aspects of the game or system suffering for it in the future because the game is not stagnating, whether we will or not is something else.
    I and many do all the time on these forums. Players were recently 'rewarded' with male viera, and the (promised?) future addition of female hrothgar, and they seem to be now creating hairstyles and trying to make it easier to add them in general for viera. After players asked 'better', or more, from SE. However, players should also be thinking realistically. Having every single set 'ungenderlocked' as well, after now the addition of the missing viera/hrothgar genders? They stated how much extra work goes into a newly added player race, and now not only are they fitting everything to these new races, players want them to double their workload?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I and many do all the time on these forums. Players were recently 'rewarded' with male viera, and the (promised?) future addition of female hrothgar, and they seem to be now creating hairstyles and trying to make it easier to add them in general for viera. After players asked 'better', or more, from SE. However, players should also be thinking realistically. Having every single set 'ungenderlocked' as well, after now the addition of the missing viera/hrothgar genders? They stated how much extra work goes into a newly added player race, and now not only are they fitting everything to these new races, players want them to double their workload?
    With how fast modders work to fit a given outfit to a different race or gender, I do wonder how much heavier it would make the workload, especially if they hopefully have been getting more hires. (Who am I kidding, the funds are being channeled towards SE's next big flop).

    Though as a paying customer, the removal of genderlock is one of the things I want the most so I'm gonna support the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    With how fast modders work to fit a given outfit to a different race or gender, I do wonder how much heavier it would make the workload, especially if they hopefully have been getting more hires. (Who am I kidding, the funds are being channeled towards SE's next big flop).

    Though as a paying customer, the removal of genderlock is one of the things I want the most so I'm gonna support the thread.
    Like look, if there was somehow a way for both genders to use previously locked gear and what would have been locked moving forward, without any compromises made to the rest of the game, I'd be for it as well. I might even use some pieces that were for males. I just don't think that would be the case - at least not prior to that supposed engine upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    at least not prior to that supposed engine upgrade.
    See you in 4 years minimum for the "engine upgrade next expantion". I wouldn't expect a corrected version of aura or elezen, it's like asking for a new race again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    It just sounds like you're asking for something else entirely that is not inherently correlated to the OP's topic.

    OP wants genderlock to be removed, that doesn't mean less traditionally masculine glamours, they don't cancel each other out, nor does it mean more "unisex" glamour. Additionally a lot of glamours considered unisex in fact seem to heavily lean on the masculine side, because it's acceptable for women to wear what used to be exclusively masculine clothing while the opposite isn't.

    In my case, I don't care how an outfit is gendered, if it looks good on my character's figure or compliments the rest of the outfit for things like shoes or hats, I'd like to have it.
    I exclusively have mogstation outfits locked for males in my glamour dresser because I have been playing a male au ra for easily over 97% of my playtime (who have a pretty feminine figure btw), I can't use at the time I'm writing this, even if they aren't inherently masculine, or even trade at a salvager, they're effectively wasting inventory slots and are unusable unless I give SE even more money. It is what it is but that doesn't seem very consumer-friendly at all.

    I share a lot of the "not enough masculine stuff" woes, but I also very much wish glamour wouldn't be locked by gender or jobs and would give the players more options to make nice glamour.
    I'm sorry to say that, but you're talking to a wall. They don't hear you, don't listen you, neither they want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I'm sorry to say that, but you're talking to a wall. They don't hear you, don't listen you, neither they want to.
    People are free to disagree with subjective opinions.

    Furthermore, I'd argue that the concerns being raised as a counter to the unlock are more than valid when removing the gender lock on hairstyles led to less options for those of us who like traditionally masculine aesthetics.

    Nobody is obligated to bend over backwards to support niche aesthetics at every possible turn. Variety is the spice of life and it's time the pendulum began swinging in the other direction once more, even if it's only temporarily.
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