STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[Theodric]

Glam what you want to glam, let other people glam what they want. If other people glam something you don't like, that's not really your prerogative or something you should worry about. I don't like the way male characters look in dresses either. But if people playing male characters want to do it, more power to them. My personal tastes should not limit their options.

I'm not losing any sleep over it, personally - but such aesthetics were not present in the game to begin with and if people have the ability to petition for them to be added then other people should be granted the ability to petition to hide them if they so wish.

We're not dealing with additions that were added in good faith, either. The development team did not wish to add them and said as much in interviews only to be accused of various horrid things as a result. A similar tactic wielded by some within this very thread.

[Bright-Flower]

I'm not losing any sleep over it, personally - but such aesthetics were not present in the game to begin with and if people have the ability to petition for them to be added then other people should be granted the ability to petition to hide them if they so wish.

We're not dealing with additions that were added in good faith, either. The development team did not wish to add them and said as much in interviews only to be accused of various horrid things as a result. A similar tactic wielded by some within this very thread.

You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?

[Snarils]

the amount of feminine looking gear in this game is already pretty high.

If they let male characters run around in dresses (vomit_emoji), then add some more masculine armor as well.

[Atreides]

You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?

Hey perfect compromise, genderlock stays in place and no system to blacklist certain glam.
Now the devs have time to work on the actual content. Nice.

[Lauront]

Hey perfect compromise, genderlock stays in place and no system to blacklist certain glam.
Now the devs have time to work on the actual content. Nice.

Agreed, certain problems solve themselves. One waste of resources ceases, another required to deal with it vanishes in turn, too.

[Theodric]

You can petition for whatever you wish, but if you petition for an option to hide other peoples glams etc so you don't have to see them I'd in turn petition against that as I'd see it as a waste of developer resources.

Nor do you or I speak for the developers, do you have a source for proof that the devs are being forced or coerced into adding these because of such claims?

I don't have the specific interviews to hand, so feel free to take it with a pinch of salt...but the gist of it was that Yoshi-P expressed that the development team were uncomfortable with the idea of designing a bunny outfit for male characters. At the time, many people were asking for it to be added in a way that would make it masculine but instead we ended up getting a straight up copy of the female version of the outfit to appease the loudest voices on social media.

The male viera thread also adopted a similar strategy, with some accusing the development team of being 'bigots' amongst other things when the gender lock was announced. Despite many people wanting a compromise in the form of a generous height slider and a masculine looking base face/muscle tone slider they were once again designed to appeal to the loudest voices on social media.

Which is, in turn, why I no longer care to give such individuals the time of day. When there's a portion of the community pushing for feminine aesthetics so fiercely and also showing active contempt for masculine aesthetics with no desire to compromise, I have no desire to compromise in turn.

[Amnmaat]

More cleavage for women more abs and pecs for men.

Gotta go equal opportunity with this stuff.

The creator didn't make men and women equal in the body department, there's nothing special about men's pecs. Furthermore, there are plenty of shirtless glamours for men.

[Jin-]

It might have been said in the posts somewhere above, but even if so I am saying it again.

Clothes themselves have no gender, it's the various societies that have placed social restrictions on who should look proper in what.

Men have worn skirted outfits for centuries, it is only in the last couple hundred years it started being considered 'wrong' for them to do so.

Women have been in skirts for most of recorded history. When they bucked the trend in the 19th century and started wearing pants, people bitched up a storm. But the world wars in the 20th century showed the practicality of allowing women to do so, and society eventually accepted the trend of women in pants. So now females can literally pretty much wear anything and not be too judged on it.

Men though have a very upward battle to get their skirts back.......

But some don't care and do it anyway, just google 'men's skirts' to see what I mean.

No. Men wore clothes designed to male bodies. Togas etc.. All these suit male body form. What these people are asking is to men wear clothes designed for female body type and it looks ridiculous if not even disturbing in vast majority of the cases.

We have togas or similar in game and they fit nicely in. We have cross dressing via wedding dress and so on and they make me wish no children/teens would ever play this game

[Yencat]

What is there to compromise about? It's not like the playerbase needs to come to an agreement about something and then it's presented to the devs for consideration.

Rather than repeatedly posting in opposition of a topic and adding to the post count, why not start a thread about things you DO want to see and keep that one alive and active?

If it gains enough traction you might actually see it happen or at least get a response, if not then maybe it wasn't such a highly requested feature after all.

[ZedxKayn]

No. Men wore clothes designed to male bodies. Togas etc.. All these suit male body form. What these people are asking is to men wear clothes designed for female body type and it looks ridiculous if not even disturbing in vast majority of the cases.

We have togas or similar in game and they fit nicely in. We have cross dressing via wedding dress and so on and they make me wish no children/teens would ever play this game

The body type argument sounds really hollow when aside hyurs, miqotes and vieras, the characters in this game tend to have very unrealistic proportions.