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    Jojo Ryder
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    As stated, wishful thinking. And you certainly don’t have to respond to every post I make with your same response about my opinions and musings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultaniku View Post
    As stated, wishful thinking. And you certainly don’t have to respond to every post I make with your same response about my opinions and musings.
    I certainly can; moreover, it brought new information.

    Keep it masculine for males
    Keep it feminine for females

    It's why there's 2 choices; make an alt if you want both options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I certainly can; moreover, it brought new information.

    Keep it masculine for males
    Keep it feminine for females

    It's why there's 2 choices; make an alt if you want both options.
    I kinda agree with them though, there are items that aren't necessarily gendered, but are still genderlocked because they're part of a set - Ryne's boots and Y'shtola's feather thingies as the most recent examples.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post

    just guys being dudes
    At least none of them are predominantly white/pastel, with boob windows, tight corsets, or exposed collarbone/shoulder area
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    Last edited by Allegor; 07-27-2021 at 01:16 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultaniku View Post
    (Wishful thinking)They could always sell the mog station sets as individual pieces as well. The pieces that don’t necessarily make much sense being gender locked would not have to be gender locked(gloves, shoes)
    Or stick to selling whole sets but just make the boots and gloves unisex, like the Expeditioner sets originally had those pieces unisex even though the tops and pants(es?) were gendered.

    They already essentially have that approach with the Aymeric costume where the hairstyle is unisex even though the outfit isn't.

    And in practice it's there for things like the Mheg Deaca where people might not touch the fairy gown with a barge pole but they want the circlet and boots. Or really, any time anyone buys a whole outfit just for one piece.


    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/R56J93/fashion-clothing-in-france-at-the-time-of-louis-xiv-from-left-king-louis-xiv-around-1660-illustration-france-R56J93.jpg
    just guys being dudes
    And that is why people with a mind for historical clothing see a lot less imbalance to feminine outfits here...


    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I kinda agree with them though, there are items that aren't necessarily gendered, but are still genderlocked because they're part of a set - Ryne's boots and Y'shtola's feather thingies as the most recent examples.
    Another one that jumps to mind is Lyse's set – unique gloves, sabatons that exist as a player model already and, particularly, unique earrings that would need no adaptation work.

    Also the ARR Scion sets which again all exist as player models. They're not really exciting outfits overall, of course, but would give a few currently role-locked pieces to use for all classes – getting the caligae models to equip on mages, for example.

    Cid's goggles as well.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I kinda agree with them though, there are items that aren't necessarily gendered, but are still genderlocked because they're part of a set - Ryne's boots and Y'shtola's feather thingies as the most recent examples.
    I gave the solution though; alt of the opposite gender.
    Thing is, the FFXIV devs keep telling us they have to cut things in order to do anything. The fact that we're only getting male viera first and female hrothgar who knows when speaks to this. We don't have time to be telling them we want boots a female npc uses. We don't get to pick and choose what gear pieces we want them to make for the opposite gender.

    As a professional company they would have to recreate the entire Ryne glam for male characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As a professional company they would have to recreate the entire Ryne glam for male characters.
    Technically this would be the responsibility of the Mog Station team as they are separate and theoretically wouldn't affect the actual dev teams progress.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I assume people are misreading the recent live letter guest-starring Yoko Taro who was explicitly not serious about anything he said.
    Yoko was mainly messing around, but at the same time Yoshida didn't seem to be specifically ironical when he said that adding Pod as a mount shouldn't be too difficult, so... I wouldn't roll out the posibility of some sort of continuation completely, although it probably won't happen (any time soon, at least, given that they don't plan collabs of this scale for 6.0).

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I gave the solution though; alt of the opposite gender.
    It's not a solution. If somebody wants their character of a very specific gender to wear a very specfic piece of cloth, making an alt won't solve the issue at hand. At all. They will now just have two characters one of whom can't wear one type of clothes and another can't wear another type of clothes. Nothing changed, only got more headache to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Yoko was mainly messing around, but at the same time Yoshida didn't seem to be specifically ironical when he said that adding Pod as a mount shouldn't be too difficult, so... I wouldn't roll out the posibility of some sort of continuation completely, although it probably won't happen (any time soon, at least, given that they don't plan collabs of this scale for 6.0).
    If it's just a matter of adding the Pod mount, there's no need to invent more content just for that. I would more expect it to be added as a prize to one of the existing raids once they stop being current and they need a new reason to lure people into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If it's just a matter of adding the Pod mount, there's no need to invent more content just for that. I would more expect it to be added as a prize to one of the existing raids once they stop being current and they need a new reason to lure people into it.
    Fair, they might do it this way. Would be a pretty logical step, too.

    Though they talked about the story itself as well:
    Q: Will there be a continuation of this story?
    Yoko "If you pay me, sure. We can do that in a bar"
    Y "We had a lot of people in our dev team who had played Yoko-Sans games, that influenced the design and mechanics a lot, so we are interested. As long as we get the budget.... we might do something"
    It's not "yes" and might be mainly a jut from Yoko, but... mmmmm... I guess it would be still correct to say that if there's indeed a demand and if they can scrap budget for this - they might actually do something. But if they ever do, I personally wouldn't expect it in 6.0 or its patches. Maybe some time in the future, or maybe not.
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