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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    I talked about culture, not morals. Scotts are proud to wear skirts btw
    Are you Scottish? I am. I live in Scotland.

    They're not referred to as skirts - they're referred to as kilts and they're quite clearly designed to not be a skirt in the regular sense and are built to adhere to the male form in a way that is very different to how a skirt would be designed to look and fit on a woman.

    The Romans used attire similar to kilts, too - but again, they were designed to accommodate the differences between men and women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Are you Scottish? I am. I live in Scotland.

    They're not referred to as skirts - they're referred to as kilts and they're quite clearly designed to not be a skirt in the regular sense and are built to adhere to the male form in a way that is very different to how a skirt would be designed to look and fit on a woman.

    The Romans used attire similar to kilts, too - but again, they were designed to accommodate the differences between men and women.
    A kilt is a type of skirt, it specifically being a kilt does not make it any less of a skirt.

    If fitting body types was what was worrying the devs enough to prevent them from removing the genderlock, there would be no horror such as the male au ra casual top (or jacket or w/e it's called), they'd care enough to make it look decent.

    Some people just seem to be against unlocking some gear because in their culture, it's deemed ugly or ridiculous.
    But in a different culture, it could be alright. As Wissp stated above, throughout history, men have been wearing skirted attires commonly enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    A kilt is a type of skirt, it specifically being a kilt does not make it any less of a skirt.

    If fitting body types was what was worrying the devs enough to prevent them from removing the genderlock, there would be no horror such as the male au ra casual top (or jacket or w/e it's called), they'd care enough to make it look decent.

    Some people just seem to be against unlocking some gear because in their culture, it's deemed ugly or ridiculous.
    But in a different culture, it could be alright. As Wissp stated above, throughout history, men have been wearing skirted attires commonly enough.
    Good luck going to Scotland and calling a kilt a skirt, or going to Dubai and calling a kandora a dress/bath robe.

    Men weren't dressing up in skirts throughout history, generally speaking - and they most certainly weren't seen or portrayed as such.

    It isn't even considered to be a popular pursuit even in the modern day and one has to wonder how much of the support for such things is legitimate and how much is coerced due to threat of punishment...

    Personally, as a gay guy, I'd rather not see the direction of glamour dictated by niche pursuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They're not referred to as skirts - they're referred to as kilts and they're quite clearly designed to not be a skirt in the regular sense and are built to adhere to the male form in a way that is very different to how a skirt would be designed to look and fit on a woman.
    In the grand scheme of design, Kilts and Skirts are literally the same thing. Probly the only real difference is the material they are made from, and a few trinkets. Otherwise, a Kilt is just a Skirt, you dont have to be Male to wear one, just like you dont have to be Female to wear a Skirt. Sure a Native to the culture might get offended, but they are and function the same....not like there is anything wrong with that.
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    Instead of asking for "stop genderlocking", asking for kilts for males or more pants for females is a better idea imo. But i guess kilts are too manly lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    In the grand scheme of design, Kilts and Skirts are literally the same thing. Probly the only real difference is the material they are made from, and a few trinkets. Otherwise, a Kilt is just a Skirt, you dont have to be Male to wear one, just like you dont have to be Female to wear a Skirt. Sure a Native to the culture might get offended, but they are and function the same....not like there is anything wrong with that.
    Yeah but at the same time, some skirts have a different design. So like you said it's close but you can't just pick a skirt change de size just to make male be able to wear it and call it a kilt after. The differences are all in the details, that's why ppl don't put kilts and skirts together. One example is that kilts have a specific lengh and shape, skirts have all kind of lenghs and shapes. That's why many ppl here are against removing genderlock, it will be copy and pasting a dress without changes outside of not being too small or too big.

    And asking for tons of outfits being unlocked when the developpers don't even have time to make 2 different options on 1 outfit for everyone feels off to me. If genderlock is here, it's not just for being anoying.
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