STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[KizuyaKatogami]

Oh no, how dare artist and game directors have a vision of a game that differs from yours! HOW DARE THEY!

I mean, their vision should really be equality considering this is an mmo. But female characters are pandered more and it’s a fact.

[TTiscancer]

I mean, their vision should really be equality considering this is an mmo. But female characters are pandered more and it’s a fact.

According to who, YOU?

It's their art, no one asked you.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I mean, their vision should really be equality considering this is an mmo. But female characters are pandered more and it’s a fact.

Yes, you are right. That's why we only have 3 female outfits from previous games and a ton of male outfits.

Lightning, Yuna, and now penelo.

VS WoL, basche, vaan, noctis, cloud, the guy from 9 whose name I forget, squall, tidus, snow, etc.

[TTiscancer]

Yes, you are right. That's why we only have 3 female outfits from previous games and a ton of male outfits.

Almost every FF protag is male, with the exception of exactly 4. Terra, Yuna in x-2 and Lightning and whatever her sister was in XIII games.

Could... could there be a connection here?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Almost every FF protag is male, with the exception of exactly 4. Terra, Yuna in x-2 and Lightning and whatever her sister was in XIII games.

Could... could there be a connection here?

Ashe was the protag of 12. Or basche. But we got penelo instead.

And they gave snows outfit for males instead of making a male version of lightnings.


So why no Tifa, aerith, (we don't even have terras outfit) rinoa, etc.

[Theodric]

And they gave snows outfit for males instead of making a male version of lightnings.

Good. I like Snow's outfit and don't want to dress up my character to look like Lightning by virtue of the fact that he's a guy.

[TTiscancer]

Ashe was the protag of 12. Or basche. But we got penelo instead.

And they gave snows outfit for males instead of making a male version of lightnings.


So why no Tifa, aerith, (we don't even have terras outfit) rinoa, etc.

I would pay money in a heartbeat for a Lulu outfit. However, if I saw a Ro dude running around in it, I would puke in my mouth.

[Theodric]

Yes, you are right. That's why we only have 3 female outfits from previous games and a ton of male outfits.

I think that's arguably balanced out by the fact that when people request NPC outfits from male characters they're rarely, if ever, added to the game whereas many are added through the Mog Station based on female NPC outfits.

To say nothing of the fact that most of the hairstyles added to the game have been androgynous or feminine in their aesthetics.

We also don't have 'only three' female outfits form previous games, either. Bozja added some glamour sets modeled after female characters such as Penelo.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I think that's arguably balanced out by the fact that when people request NPC outfits from male characters they're rarely, if ever, added to the game whereas many are added through the Mog Station based on female NPC outfits.

To say nothing of the fact that most of the hairstyles added to the game have been androgynous or feminine in their aesthetics.

We also don't have 'only three' female outfits form previous games, either. Bozja added some glamour sets modeled after female characters such as Penelo.

Yeah, that makes 3 lol.

Fran is race specific and more Viera anyway than her specifically.


Name the others.

Lightning, Yuna, and penelo are it.

[MirielleLavandre]

I mean, their vision should really be equality considering this is an mmo. But female characters are pandered more and it’s a fact.

Actually, as a Japanese person with characters on both JPN and NA servers, I think the disconnect that often happens is that people believe that just because a game has international audience that it has to have the same cultural norms of other countries. In Japan, one will hardly ever, ever see a man dressing as a woman, except for otokonoko types (what the Westerners call 'traps'), which is a totally fringe group. While I respect these people for living how they desire, the fact is Japan is very, very conservative still. In work, you're even told what color suits you may wear, women are told what color hair they are allowed to have, etc. I get it that many Western cultures are really relaxed and allow everyone to just be however they like, but please also try to respect that Yoshi-P has gone out of his way to address many of the things that the mostly Western audience wanted even though it may have not really been as appreciated by the Japanese community (like, I believe, male bunny suits?). Yes, it is an international game, but it is informed by the culture of those that produce it and who have probably lived with Japanese cultural norms all of their lives.