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  1. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    People are free to disagree with subjective opinions.

    Furthermore, I'd argue that the concerns being raised as a counter to the unlock are more than valid when removing the gender lock on hairstyles led to less options for those of us who like traditionally masculine aesthetics.

    Nobody is obligated to bend over backwards to support niche aesthetics at every possible turn. Variety is the spice of life and it's time the pendulum began swinging in the other direction once more, even if it's only temporarily.
    I don't see there any lack of masculine options, to be completely frank. If anything, there's too much of it for my taste. Your daily reminder that "traditonal bruh bruh" varies from culture to culture.

    ZedxKayn pointed out more than validly that instead of turning down other people for wanintg something you don't want to have regarding glamours, we can and should ask for both. There's a good chance that both won't happen at the same time, but it doesn't mean that people have to jump on each other or say "it shouldn't happen because I want to have more masculine glamours", whatever this goddamned word means at this point. Surprise, but you aren't the center of the universe, just as no one else is. What people should do is voicing their wishes and then developer will decide what they want to do - they aren't small kids, they know what they want and can do and so they will when they decide so. Also the rising demand for various things is a good indicator for them and their that they need to ask for more budget and more people resources. If people stay shut - they'll never know that there's demand to begin with.

    That said, ofc you're free to agree to disagree. I merely stated the fact - people in this thread don't hear each other, neither they want to, if answers in this discussion are anything to go by.
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I and many do all the time on these forums. Players were recently 'rewarded' with male viera, and the (promised?) future addition of female hrothgar, and they seem to be now creating hairstyles and trying to make it easier to add them in general for viera. After players asked 'better', or more, from SE. However, players should also be thinking realistically. Having every single set 'ungenderlocked' as well, after now the addition of the missing viera/hrothgar genders? They stated how much extra work goes into a newly added player race, and now not only are they fitting everything to these new races, players want them to double their workload?
    With how fast modders work to fit a given outfit to a different race or gender, I do wonder how much heavier it would make the workload, especially if they hopefully have been getting more hires. (Who am I kidding, the funds are being channeled towards SE's next big flop).

    Though as a paying customer, the removal of genderlock is one of the things I want the most so I'm gonna support the thread.
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  3. #393
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I don't see there any lack of masculine options, to be completely frank. If anything, there's too much of it for my taste. Your daily reminder that "traditonal bruh bruh" varies from culture to culture.

    ZedxKayn pointed out more than validly that instead of turning down other people for wanintg something you don't want to have regarding glamours, we can and should ask for both. There's a good chance that both won't happen at the same time, but it doesn't mean that people have to jump on each other or say "it shouldn't happen because I want to have more masculine glamours", whatever this goddamned word means at this point. Surprise, but you aren't the center of the universe, just as no one else is. What people should do is voicing their wishes and then developer will decide what they want to do - they aren't small kids, they know what they want and can do and so they will when they decide so. Also the rising demand for various things is a good indicator for them and their that they need to ask for more budget and more people resources. If people stay shut - they'll never know that there's demand to begin with.

    That said, ofc you're free to agree to disagree. I merely stated the fact - people in this thread don't hear each other, neither they want to, if answers in this discussion are anything to go by.
    I read through all that and all I saw was a bunch of contradictions.

    "Yes, say what you want, disagree!!! But I hate the fact that you're disagreeing with female clothes on males"
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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    With how fast modders work to fit a given outfit to a different race or gender, I do wonder how much heavier it would make the workload, especially if they hopefully have been getting more hires. (Who am I kidding, the funds are being channeled towards SE's next big flop).

    Though as a paying customer, the removal of genderlock is one of the things I want the most so I'm gonna support the thread.
    Like look, if there was somehow a way for both genders to use previously locked gear and what would have been locked moving forward, without any compromises made to the rest of the game, I'd be for it as well. I might even use some pieces that were for males. I just don't think that would be the case - at least not prior to that supposed engine upgrade.
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  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I don't see there any lack of masculine options, to be completely frank. If anything, there's too much of it for my taste. Your daily reminder that "traditonal bruh bruh" varies from culture to culture.
    In comparison to feminine options? Think you should re-evaluate that.There’s been numerous examples given of constant feminine styled glams in the form of male glams. Masculine glams have just seemed like a rarity this expansion alone, but not only that but other expansions as well. Just look at the shisui glams lmao. The devs have constantly pandered to female characters, and do very little to change glams for male characters. Just look at 90% of the healing or even casting gear.
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  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I read through all that and all I saw was a bunch of contradictions.
    That's because you see what you want to see and actually illustrate what he's talking about really well.
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  7. #397
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    That's because you see what you want to see and actually illustrate what he's talking about really well.
    Incorrect, he's trying to stifle discussion by asking people not to question/challenge the topic at hand.
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  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I read through all that and all I saw was a bunch of contradictions.

    "Yes, say what you want, disagree!!! But I hate the fact that you're disagreeing with female clothes on males"
    If you're free to disagree with people, people are just as free to disagree with you. No contradiction here. Also I don't hate it, don't see myself saying so in my post and would be glad if people won't put words and meanings I didn't say and mean in my mouth, thank you very much.

    People want more masculine options, even if there're enough of them? Ask for them. People want to have more feminine options, even if there're enough of them? Ask for them. It's simple as that. Everything else can be, and will be, decided by developers, not us, no matter how many pages people argue with each other over nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    In comparison to feminine options? Think you should re-evaluate that.There’s been numerous examples given of constant feminine styled glams in the form of male glams. Masculine glams have just seemed like a rarity this expansion alone, but not only that but other expansions as well. Just look at the shisui glams lmao. The devs have constantly pandered to female characters, and do very little to change glams for male characters. Just look at 90% of the healing or even casting gear.
    In comparison as well. I'm not from the West, so what I see as masculine may, and likely does, vary from your views. That said, can there be more options to appeal to both parties? Yes. Should there be more options to appeal for both parties? Also yes. What can we do as players? Asking for those options to be included. Everything else falls into DevTeam's hands.
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    Last edited by Halivel; 07-30-2021 at 02:18 AM.

  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    at least not prior to that supposed engine upgrade.
    See you in 4 years minimum for the "engine upgrade next expantion". I wouldn't expect a corrected version of aura or elezen, it's like asking for a new race again.
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  10. #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Incorrect, he's trying to stifle discussion by asking people not to question/challenge the topic at hand.
    Case in point, because most of your posts have had a questionable attitude towards people who disagreed with you rather than the actual topic at hand.
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