STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

[Lauront]

I would love to see more tunic type glams similar to the Eikon Acton model. There are very few items like this in the game. I like pieces that drape down a bit below the waist and above the knee. Bits of armor on a robe is cool too, which unfortunately we don't seem to get very often either. The bit of concept art below is one of my favorite looking pieces of caster gear I've seen. It looks masculine to me and functional.

Healers especially suffer with glam pieces that really seem tailored more to females. It feels like the majority of healer chestpieces are full robes with a wide or bottom-heavy silhouettes. I like robes. I like men in robes. FF mostly doesn't do men in robes well imo. A robe on a man should ideally accentuate the shoulders and chest and then taper down to something straight. This would be an example of a more masculine full robe to me.

I really like that example.

The one robe set that I particularly like in this game is the Ascian robe set:





Alas, the Shadowless set is a poor substitute.

At least the recent Law's Order healer and caster sets were very good, and they work particularly well on an Au Ra.

Some art styles I like from other games:

[KizuyaKatogami]

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Ty for the thought out response! Unfortunately i’m really not a fan of the modern glams. I’ve always been a fan of the medieval type of aspect ff has had, even with some of the futuristic stuff like allagans and garleans. But i’ve always felt it should stick to its roots with the older themed glams. I kind of greatly dislike things like the hoodies and the baseball cap etc just because it feels so out of place and i’m a nerd who likes to feel immersed . I’m not expecting really to get many manly glams or masculine ones in endwalker as i’ve kind of just accepted the way things are. Just thought to put my thoughts out on this and this topic as a whole.

[BaconBits]

The Voeburtite/Heirloom tunics of casting and healing come to mind when I think of feminine Disciple of Magic gear. It's practically a mini dress design-wise, and while some people might like that (myself included), I can imagine most dudes would glam that off in a heartbeat.

What casters and healers need are more outfits like Exdeath's and Golbez's heavy armor, or Seymour's robes with the open chest and tattoos.

[LisSquid]

The Voeburtite/Heirloom tunics of casting and healing come to mind when I think of feminine Disciple of Magic gear. It's practically a mini dress design-wise, and while some people might like that (myself included), I can imagine most dudes would glam that off in a heartbeat.

What casters and healers need are more outfits like Exdeath's and Golbez's heavy armor, or Seymour's robes with the open chest and tattoos.

I am all for this! We have a surplus of feminine casting and healing glams. It won't kill us to get something a bit more rugged.

[BaconBits]

Honestly, none of this would be an issue if the devs weren't afraid to give casters and healers more than black and white robes. If every other class can bounce between intimidating and shiny armor, tight and rugged leathers, and fancy cloth armors of varying lengths, then why can't disciples of magic?

Now as for this whole gender lock thing, I'm fine with the glams that are obtainable in-game being locked, and if the lock gets removed somewhere down the line then that's just a little bonus for me. If it doesn't, well that's no skin off my rump.

What does chafe me are character glams on the Mogstation being locked unless someone gets a brain worm and decides "Oh hey, Alphinaud's outfit looks good on the ladies too", or "Aymeric's hairstyle is unisex, but his armour ain't lmao" while Lightning and Snow, or Thancred and Y'shtola's hairstyles are decidedly not unisex. Stuff like that does grind my gears a bit.

[Ceridwenae]

Ty for the thought out response! Unfortunately i’m really not a fan of the modern glams. I’ve always been a fan of the medieval type of aspect ff has had, even with some of the futuristic stuff like allagans and garleans. But i’ve always felt it should stick to its roots with the older themed glams. I kind of greatly dislike things like the hoodies and the baseball cap etc just because it feels so out of place and i’m a nerd who likes to feel immersed . I’m not expecting really to get many manly glams or masculine ones in endwalker as i’ve kind of just accepted the way things are. Just thought to put my thoughts out on this and this topic as a whole.

Oof, I feel that. I switched up to the modern aesthetic simply because I gave up on anything else looking good. My glamours are like a real life capsule collection, plus a stash of stuff I'd not normally use if it wasn't for Fashion Report Fridays.

If it helps, and I know it doesn't really, healer gear on my main doesn't make me happy either. You might feel it's largely feminine skewed, and whereas I don't particularly disagree with that sentiment, I don't feel I'm the sort of feminine it might relate to. There's many facets to femininity (as with masculinity). Then, broadly speaking, tank gear is upsetting regardless of gender. Aiming gear is often tragic, again irrespective of gender (and again, broadly speaking). And if you happen to find something that might work, it either won't dye or doesn't dye completely, leaving leftover red sections which are crushing and ruin the effect if you use a dye scheme that has no room for red. It probably makes some people happy, though I think the devs making gear have a largely thankless task and it's impossible to please everyone. I've long since felt things I like are few and far between, even when there's lots and lots to theoretically choose from. I still have enough to make things work, but my goodness, I wouldn't mind some new things after my own heart.

I sincerely hope you (and me!) get nice things for our lads (and lasses!) the way we want in the future. It never hurts to say what you'd like to see, at least.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The Voeburtite/Heirloom tunics of casting and healing come to mind when I think of feminine Disciple of Magic gear. It's practically a mini dress design-wise, and while some people might like that (myself included), I can imagine most dudes would glam that off in a heartbeat.

What casters and healers need are more outfits like Exdeath's and Golbez's heavy armor, or Seymour's robes with the open chest and tattoos.

God this would be so nice. Thank you these are actually perfect examples lol. More gear like that in general would be nice. More cloaks and capes as opposed to flowy robes with frills and dresses/stockings. It’s so surprising to me that they have inspiration like that to go off of and they do nothing with it and instead just give us more of the same. Idk if their design team has just lost their spark or what.

[Allegor]

I'd say you're both half right. There were homophobic/transphobic comments (won't scroll back all that to check if they were deleted tho), but at the same time they're too a small minority (or just trolls) and not an attitude most condone, so it's far from being a general consensus of the forum, let alone the community.

[BaconBits]

I don't think anyone would appreciate being called sis multiple times after repeatedly clarifying that they're a dude.

[LisSquid]

As much as I hate to give props to Blizzard right now, they made some really good caster sets. Even with the bulk of them being robes, they always had some edge to them that was just, mwah, delightful. Unless we're talking about mage tier 21. Point and laugh, kids.